Monday, January 2, 2012

A SIDE BAR OF NOTE

The following is from the side bar of one of my favorite blog sites, Important Stuff--or Not

Talking Points
I don't use talking points, I create them.

1. Hate makes people stoopid.

2. There is nothing so impenetrable as a closed mind.

3. A stupid person is not someone who can't learn, but someone who refuses to learn.

4. It is a small mind that has no room for God.

5. You can take Stalin out of the gene pool, but you can't take Stalinism out of liberals.

6. The best way to sabotage a bad plan is to follow it to the letter.

7. The race card is the first refuge of people who have nothing to say.

8. Ignorance is the cornerstone of arrogance.

9. Which is more racist, to hate someone who is not white or to assume someone is racist because he is white?

10. Children are not stupid. If a child is taught, the child will learn. If a child is not learning, the child is not being taught.

11. To express righteous indignation, one must first be righteous. And that's a label that doesn't stick to liberals.

12. Profanity is ignorance made audible.

13. An open mind is a liberal's worst enemy.

14. Paternalism is the purest form of racism.

15. People who bend the truth, usually bend it in their favor.

16. If you always stand in opposition to liberalism, you will never be wrong.

18. Life is simple. People who make it complicated usually have an agenda.

19. Getting your news from the corrupt, liberal media is like sticking your head in the sand, except you don't get grit in your teeth.

20. Liberals' emotional development stops at the age of 16.

21. To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell the truth.

22. Idealism seldom matches up with reality.

23. Those who don't hate communism have never lived it.

24. This was a much more civil country when men walked about heavily armed.

25. This economy will never heal as long as Obama keeps picking at the scab.

26. Liberals don't think outside the box; they ARE the box.

27. You cannot change the hearts and minds of liberals, because they possess neither.

28. There is no such thing as a kind liberal.

Which ones do you like best?

(I particularly like #s 4, 7, 9, 12, 20 and 26...although the choice is very hard.)

41 comments:

Ducky's here said...

Thing is Joe, all we ever read from you jingoist fundies is how much you hate liberal.

You had one poster in a recent thread describe Obama as a socialist and she was asked what aspects of socialism characterize his administration. he turtled just like the rest of your right wing readers.

Pitch till you win.

Ducky's here said...

This was a much more civil country when men walked about heavily armed.
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Joe I didn't know you're a gun loon.

sue hanes said...

Joe - #28.


I've told you before I am kind.

I am a Liberal.


kind + Liberal = kind Liberal



that's me Joe

sue hanes said...

That's the kind of Liberal I am Joe.


Kind.

sue hanes said...

I don't get #26 Joe.

Joe said...

sue hanes: Please collect your thoughts, organize them in an intelligent manner and make them rational before commenting and get them all into just one comment instead of this disjointed, irrational style you are using.

Ducky: I don't own a gun and never have. But I will shoot the first person that tries to take mine away.

Jarheads Blog said...

sue hanes is a prime example of the type of people involved with so called 99 percenter's. People who believe in destroying something descent with the intent to improve it with something worse

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Boy, with that list it is very difficult to choose a favorite!!

Ducky's here said...

How about this one Glenn:

1. Right wingers who complain about social programs are frequently sucking of the government teat themselves and are private sector flops.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Ducky,

Evidence?

Ducky's here said...

Chatsy, as yourself and Joe have demonstrated time and time again and do so with this infantile exercise, evidence is not at issue, only the ability to insult.

Are you named after Glenn Beck?

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Ducky,

I don't know why you think you are so cool attacking me as a person rather than my ideology. My name is not "Chatsy" I find that to be offensive. My name is Glenn, or you can call me by my last name as they did in the Army.

I never post without evidence, nor have I seen Joe do so. And I don't do things to insult, although truth does tend to insult liberals.

Again, you play the Glenn Beck card to insult me - why? Were you the school bully? I was around before Beck was born, so how could I be named after him? And why do you keep harping on Beck with me; I don't listen to him and don't particularly like him either!

So if you don't have anything intelligent to say, if you don't have anything to contribute to the discussion, grow up and stay home.

sue hanes said...

Joe - How can you have #28 on your list? That clearly states that Liberals are not kind.

But Joe - I am a kind person and I also am a Liberal - an American Liberal.

Clearly you are wrong Joe.


Can't you just admit it - just this once?



if you don't i'm going to have to come down to florida and blow your head clean off with the handgun that i don't have



right after i dust and vacuum the living room : ]

Leticia said...

My favorites, and I agree with all of these, but these stand out: 1, 7,12,13,16,27 and 28.

Ducky's here said...

Gee Leticia, run out and get lottery ticket.

Sun Cracked Soul said...

Ducky's here said...
"Gee Leticia, run out and get lottery ticket"


Gee Ducky, your a real big mouthed wise ass behind a computer aren't you!

Xavier Onassis said...

Glenn - When Ducky said "1. Right wingers who complain about social programs are frequently sucking of the government teat themselves and are private sector flops." you asked for evidence.

Why you need look no further than our esteemed host, Mr. Jo Joe Politico.

He makes no secret about his age and his health challenges. He has discussed them freely so I'm not violating any confidences.

Virtually every life saving medical procedure he has undergone in the years that I've been reading this blog has been subsidized by the American taxpayer.

And let me be crystal clear...as a taxpayer I am more than happy to extend this Big Government Entitlement to Jo Joe. I just wish he'd show a bit more honest gratitude instead of constantly spitting on the hand that is trying to keep him alive so that he can continue to exercise his Government given right to Free Speech.

As for the "private sector flop" thing, that's a bit more nebulous in Jo Joe's case. I know he was very heavily invested in a Christian radio station where he was employed at when it went belly up he lost his shirt. Not really his fault, per se. He was just a bit gullible and placed too much faith in the free market appeal of Christian radio. Most people would rather listen to Lady GaGa and CeeLo Green

So I don't understand why people who have been victimized by the free market and helped by the government continue to defend the millionaires and hate on the government.

It's not a position that stands up to close scrutiny.

Joe said...

XO: " I know he was very heavily invested in a Christian radio station where he was employed at when it went belly up he lost his shirt."

Typical liberal. Can't read or understand anything at all.

I was never invested in any Christian radio. I was a manager of one that was growing in financial success and audience until a guy bought the station from the college that owned it.

The school was struggling and needed to divest itself of the station. They sold it to a man who turned it around from a success to a failure, lost his audience and most of his staff...me included.

He kept promising to straighten things out while we stood with him, all the time thinking we would have jobs, but the economy got him and we all had to leave...myself too late to keep from losing my savings.

I trusted him...wrongly.

But never mind. Those facts won't make one whit's difference to you, because you have already applied your atheistic, liberal mind set to it and don't really care what the truth is...just what fits your prejudice and agenda.

You, yourself, prove every one of LR's Talking Points...perfectly.

Xavier Onassis said...

Joe - So, I was right about the Christian Radio thing.

"I was a manager of one that was growing in financial success and audience until a guy bought the station from the college that owned it.

The school was struggling and needed to divest itself of the station."

If the station was so financialy successful, why would the school that was struggling need to dump it?

How does that make any sort of financial sense?

Why wouldn't they keep and invest in a profit center?

"They sold it to a man who turned it around from a success to a failure, lost his audience and most of his staff...me included.

He kept promising to straighten things out while we stood with him, all the time thinking we would have jobs, but the economy got him and we all had to leave...myself too late to keep from losing my savings."

Right. This is what successful, conservative, right wing CEOs do. They buy profitable companies, run them in to the ground, lie to their employees, fire them and pocket any capital gain without paying any taxes. Which is EXACTLY how Mitt Romney made his fortune with Bain Capital.

Why do you defend these money hungry predators who destroy the lives of people exactly like you?

Are you going to address your frequent use of Government Entitlement Health Care vis a vis your rants against Big Government?

Are you going to thank The American Tax Payer for keeping you alive?

And again, we are all happy to do so! I would not want to live in a country where you couldn't get life saving medical procedures just because you couldn't afford them.

That would be barbaric (a.k.a conservative).

Joe said...

XO: "If the station was so financialy successful, why would the school that was struggling need to dump it?"

You really don't understand anything, do you?

There is always a lag between money poured into a business and the money coming in from that business.

Running a radio station is expensive up front, and the revenues follow.

When the college experienced issues not related to the radio station, they needed a quick influx of cash and the sale of a successful radio station provided that influx.

Since a radio station is not the essence of what a college is about, it made sense to sell it to generate the cash needed to run what the college WAS about.

Look, you need to stop trying to bend this to fit your pre-conceived notions, because you don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not sure what things you do know, but this isn't one of them.

Bow out...or face looking like an idiot.

Joe said...

XO (continued): "They buy profitable companies,..."

The radio station was not a company. It was not profitable. It was part of a 501C-3 non-profit religious corporation...not allowed to make a profit.

You confuse "being successful" with "making a profit," thinking they are the same thing.

They are not (except in the warpped mind of a liberal).

"Are you going to address your frequent use of Government Entitlement Health Care vis a vis your rants against Big Government?"

No.

Xavier Onassis said...

Joe - I truly love you and wish you nothing but a long and prosperous life.

I think you are a good person with a good heart.

But you are so blatantly hypocritical in every single point of view that you post!

You willingly suck at the taxpayer funded government teat while berating liberals like me for providing the teat that keeps you alive!

Without Social Security. Medicare and Medicaide, you would be dead.

You defend the Free Market, Capitalist system that robbed you of any hope you ever had of financial independence in your Golden Years, yet you belittle the OWS protesters who are fighting for people exactly like you!

You are on the wrong side! We want to help you! The people you defend don't care about you. We do.

You are a textbook example of the Stockholm Syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Ducky's here said...

Glenn was an air traffic controller at a small airport.

He pensioned out young on a disability claim, I believe.

I'm sure Glenn will have a smooth story to explain why he "earned" retirement in his 50's.

Just another right wing hypocrite.

Ducky's here said...

@XO - Which is EXACTLY how Mitt Romney made his fortune with Bain Capital.

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Preach it brother.

Joe went through the "venture capital" experience and ether doesn't recognize it or somehow blindly defends it.

Yet he and his right wing zombie readers will refuse to open their eyes. In Joe's case the scam artist even invested the radio station's 401K 100% in the station itself. They stole everything and Joe is still blindly supporting them.

Xavier Onassis said...

Joe - "You confuse "being successful" with "making a profit," thinking they are the same thing."

In a capitalistic, free market system that you tout so often and so enthusiastically, how are they not the same thing?

Only in a socialist environment can one be considered successful while failing to make any money for the investors.

Joe said...

XO: There are no "investors" in a Christian radio station. They operate almost entirely on listener donations.

People who like what you're doing send in contributions. People who don't, don't.

There is no "ROI" in Christian radio outside of the pure blessing bestowed by the programming.

Once again you prove you don't have the slightest inkling of what you're talking about.

But you'll just keep on talking about it, knowledge or not.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Ducky,

You are a typical liberal making up stories about that which you have no clue.

Firstly, Working for the federal government is not always "Sucking the teat" - there are necessary federal jobs; you know like the military! HELLO!!

Air Traffic Control is also a required federal job in that in requires national standards (not state-to-state), as well as a unified system, and it require international treaties and cooperation.

Due to liberal union negotiations in the early 1970s, a federal law was passed making it illegal to work as an air traffic controller after turning 56. You are mandated to retire no later than the end of the month in which you turn 56. You can stay in the FAA in a management position - if you can find one and if you are qualified (being a controller doesn't qualify you). While I was qualified for a management position (having been a front-line supervisor for 10 years), there are no positions within hundreds of miles from my location. Oh, and Cedar Rapids, IA isn't a "small" airport.

Now if you call being forced to retire due to reaching the maximum age a "disability," then you are stupid.

I did not want to retire. The union worked it in the early 1970s so that not only were you mandated to leave at 56, but also you could retire at 50 if you had 20 years ATC, or any age if you had 25 years ATC. I could have retired at age 50 if I was a liberal like you.

I did get lucky in that we were schedule for an influx of 10 trainees to replace all those lost in forced retirement and transfers, and we never before had more than a couple a year and the training program was not kept up because it could be done piecemeal and they took controllers off position to do classroom training, etc. Ten was too many to do that so 2 months prior to my retirement we were authorized a contract instructor position, for which I applied. Since I had previous instructional experience in many venues, and built the training program for a previous facility where I worked, I easily got the job and for the next 18 months rebuilt the training program and conducted all classroom and radar simulator training before being laid off after the new people got through the program.

My retirement annuity includes my five years military time and three years with the postal service (you know, that CONSTITUTIONALLY authorized service due to its national and international scope).

It is liberals like you who forced me to retire and then you complain that I'm living on a retirement annuity which I paid in to like any other retirement plan - and I am not eligible for social security, by the way.

So now, mr DUCKY, quit spreading lies and slander.

Xavier Onassis said...

Glenn - So, basically, every dime you ever made in your entire life came out of the pocket of the American taxpayer.

Got it! Understood!

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

I paid taxes also.

So, would you divest the country of government altogether?

Conservatives don't have a problem with government employees per se - the problem is what the jobs are. As noted before, there are many necessary government jobs to keep any country running.

And, no, not every dime I made was from the government - I have worked, and still do work, in many capitalistic venues where I EARN money.

Xavier Onassis said...

Glenn - No, I wouldn't get rid of the federal government. Not at all. I think it plays a vital role in society.

I just find an astounding level of hypocrisy in A) People who complain about the federal government after living their entire lives pocketing the paycheck funded by federal taxes; B) People who complain about federal entitlement programs who owe their very life to federal entitlement programs; C) People who defend a free market capitalist system that robbed them of everything they had; D) People who espouse the benefits of free market capitalism when they only have experience in a not for profit religious environment where the rules of free market capitalism don't even apply.

Joe said...

XO: Did I mention that I also ran my own business?

Oh, oh! Another piece of the puzzle missed by the all-intelligent one.

Oh, and did I mention that I still contribute a premium to Medicare (and have since its inception), to Social Security and to a Medicare suppliment?

And I still pay income taxes...even on my Social Security.

What a leach I have been.

Xavier Onassis said...

Joe - I never called you a leech. I called you a hypocrite.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

XO,

A. I only complain about the waste in the federal government, the useless and unconstitutional jobs of the federal government - never would a real conservative complain about necessary federal jobs. Only liberals would make a fuss about someone working for the government. And, as previously noted, I have also worked in the private sector and currently am self-employed.

B. I’ve never participated in a government entitlement program.

C. I’ve never defended a totally free-market capitalist system because I know corruption can creep in, but I maintain it can be controlled with minimal government intervention. And I’ve never had the system rob me.

D. Also doesn’t apply to me.

Your charge of hypocrisy does not apply to me.

Ducky's here said...

Joe, Glenn --- The voices you hear are your corner men yelling "stay down".

The galling aspect of this discussion is that both of you are getting along on government programs which came into being through the very liberals you condemn and, as confirmed by Joe's column, regularly insult.

Somehow you feel that paying taxes makes you exceptional. Something only the right does why the rest of us freeload. Maybe you can understand why discussion is impossible and we are reduced to brickbats. At any rate, the liberals here seem much more able to distill the situation to a factual basis than anything the right has to offer.

"You can take Stalin out of the gene pool, but you can't take Stalinism out of liberals."

My favorite. Really, at the end of the day who do you follow to your car because I know you can't find it on your own. Just stunning.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Ducky,

Would you please explain what government program which came into being by liberals that I am participating in?

I realize truth for you is elusive, but try just this once.

Ducky's here said...

Well, Glenn, government had a lot to do with building and subsidizing our transportation infrastructure.

You were also a union member. Why not go back and study conservative contributions to the American labor movement and report back to the class.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Ducky,
You just don't know when to quit being stupid, do you?

What does the gov't subsidizing anything have to do with me and what I support and don't support? Do you just pull crap out of your rear to find something to say?

I never joined the Postal Worker's Union.

Now, when I first started ATC training in 1978, I was told by the union that if I didn't join them I would never certify; and that if I told anyone they would say I was lying. Okay, so I joined so I could have the job. Guess what - three years later they went on strike and I refused to go with them because, unlike liberals such as yourself, I honored my oath not to strike. That was the end of PATCO and I refused to join the new union when formed after I was certified.

So your crap about me being a union member is just that. I joined for a short time because I was held hostage, but I never participated in any union activity.

I hate unions and find them to be more harmful than of good.

Ducky's here said...

You ever work in the private sector, Glenn?

Ducky's here said...

So you didn't join the union but you took advantage of the benefits the union achieved?

Yeah, it gets better.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Ducky,

In response to your question about my employment, you obviously have a reading disability. Go back to my comment at 10:32 AM.

The benefits I got would have been there with or without the unions.

Unions actually used to have more of a purpose, but now they are all about promoting themselves and all that is unholy, forcing jobs overseas, forcing unemployment by ridiculous demands, protecting lazy employees, etc. Don't get me started on unions - that's something for another blog.

sue hanes said...

We have to have Unions for the same reason that Affirmative Action was needed:

Because there are people that won't play fair.


Now Unions will always be needed whereas AA probably has outlived its usefullness.