Wednesday, December 14, 2011

THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE



On of the chants heard over and over in this video is: "This is what democracy looks like."

That's right.

And that's why we don't live in a democracy.

Mob rule is the ultimate result of EVERY democracy and that's a BAD thing.

We live in a constitutional republic.

That's the way it was designed and that's the only way it will survive.

Now liberals, don't go off commenting on the right or wrong of OWS, try to stay focused on the actual point of the post: Democracy is a BAD way to run a country and that's why in 1776 we chose NOT to establish one.

Instead, we live in, as Ben Franklin said, "...a republic, if we can keep it."

So, liberals, stop this nonsense of referring to the USA as a democracy. We're not one, never have been, should not be one now and must never become one.

A constitutional republic retains some aspects of a democracy, but keeps it within the framework of representativeness, constitutionalism and the appropriate application of law.

As has happened with OWS, democracy boils down to a complete waste of time and resources, hurts more people than it helps and ultimately leads to total anarchy.

God help us retain and maintain our republic.

30 comments:

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Don't you just love how the liberals brainwash their children to be liberals with all their propaganda?

Vito1964 said...

Lets all hope that they grow up to be good little protesters that will clean up after a good performance.. And teach them to hate capitalism.

sue hanes said...

Joe - Didja see where TIME magazine made THE PROTESTER person of the year?

I never read that stupid magazine anymore - but I thought you might be interested in hearing - since you have a mild interest in protesters. : )

Ducky's here said...

That's right Joe, we are a Republic as the pedantic right will point out ad nauseum.

Now what does that mean? I suspect the founders merely used it in the sense of Machiavelli to refer to a state not ruled by a king.

Since you're a fringe right winger you know history and political science and all that stuff so maybe you can fill in the rest.

Jump in Glenn.

Sue, put down the pipe.

Ducky's here said...

Joe, who is the source of power in a republic?

Leticia said...

That's just great liberals training and using their children to further their sad and demented views propaganda.

Instead they should be teaching them to be responsible, mature, independent adults that will be a positive addition to the work-force and not a burden to the tax-payers.

Xavier Onassis said...

In a democracy the people rule themselves through direct votes on everything.

Like the OWSers.

In a republic, the people elect representatives who then govern on behalf of the electorate.

Take a look at what's going on in D.C. right now and ask yourself how that's working out for us?

Our elected representatives are incapable of governing on our (the 99%) behalf because they don't owe their allegiance to us.

They owe their allegience to Grover Norquist, Big Oil, Big Pharma and all of the Newt Gingrich type lobbyists that are making million$ thwarting the will of the people without even showing us the courtesy of paying their fair share of taxes on the money they make undermining our best interests.

In a true democracy, at least we could ensure that every voice is heard equally.

Ducky's here said...

Glenn, are the people the source of power in a republic?

Are they a source of power in America?

What went wrong?

sue hanes said...

awww ducky - just one more puff?






i don't inhale

tha malcontent said...

Joe, I don't recognize what the democracy I once knew looks like anymore. My children and especially my Grandchildren will never see it again.. It's gone .

tha malcontent said...

Joe after reading these posts I can see just how desperate and despicable these Democrats are and as usual how they wind up resorting to name calling.
That's the difference between the Democratic and Republican parties. The Republicans bring out the issues that we have problems with and the Lefties resort to name-calling, lying, spinning,using misinformation, and all the other dirty techniques that they have.

Joe said...

XO: A republic is not perfect. A democracy is worse.

Mob rule is inappropriate.

There's a world of difference between mob rule and "majority rules."

But you wouldn't be able to understand that.

Ducky's here said...

What did the government you remember look like, malcontent?

Let me guess, you remember the huge deficits, upward wealth transfer and middle class tax increases of the Raygun era with fondness.

Exactly what do you remember?

I bet cheap gasoline is your fondest memory.

tha malcontent said...
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tha malcontent said...

At least I don't have any memories of liberals, progressive and other Creeps occupying our parks,& disrupting our bridges and subways keeping honest, hard working people who only wanted to go to work, and pounding on drums at all hours of the night, etc.
And I also remember when communism, and socialism was a dirty word,not like it is today. Today it seems to appear that it's is alive and well in America.
And I remember when our government enforced the law and when people obey it.
And I can remember when out Presidents were real American's and didn't attempt to destroy civil liberties and u freedom of speech, and when the press had a pair of balls and wasn't afraid to call it like it was. And when this American-style of socialism didn't exist. And when people like you didn't exist.
And now,come to think of it being wealthy, and the word Bank, and Corporation have become a dirty word.
I also remember when being Patriotic wasn't a dirty word, like it is today. I also remember when people like Obama couldn't even think of becoming President because he IS a Socialist, but Herman Cain was ridiculed for what he was accused of. Obama took us to Libya to Assassinate their leader, but Herman Cain had an affair. Remember when Your party spoke about Clinton’s affair be his private business? Did that only apply to Democrat's?

Anonymous said...

A great read as usual Joe. Though none of this should come as a shock to even the modestly observant among us.
We have a President and a Democratic Party that has supported to the Occupy Wall Street radicals. As you had said in the past.

We have a President and a Democratic Party totally aligned with the unions in America, some of which put the auto industry in jeopardy, others in the public sector that have plundered state treasuries with sweetheart deals for pensions and health plans, and who we have seen thuggishly oppose the restructuring of collective bargaining. It is why a close ally of Obama,.
Obama is a horrid aberration, the result of a combination of the Democratic Party, the liberal media, and the education community to dumb down Americans and make them ready for the Communist America that Obama advocates.
And we now have a President who says Capitalism “doesn’t work” and “It has never worked.” That is utterly absurd, but it reveals his ideology and his goal of fomenting a Communist revolution in America by bankrupting the nation to achieve it.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

A pure democracy is 51% rules, which isn't a whole lot of difference from mob rules. Democratic Republic is what we had which worked, but what we have now is an oligarchy - only a few rule, and they are the elite class. The judges are the real rulers, in that they have been legislating from the bench to the total destruction of the moral fabric of this nation. Once the moral fabric collapses, the rest quickly follows.

People claim that the rich corporations rule, and to an extent that is true, but I find that the unions have much more power than the corporations. Which is why so much of our industrial base has moved overseas - to be away from the power of the unions.

The other ruling class is the intelligentsia - those who decide what is to be taught in the schools - who brainwash our youth with enviro-nazi, hedonistic, anything-goes-sexuality, etc. They decide what is or is not permitted to be discussed in the educational establishments, they decide what should be allowed to be dissented against, etc.

So we have a few elite classes ruling this nation and the rest of us have no say so any more.

Xavier Onassis said...

Malcontent - "I don't have any memories of liberals, progressive and other Creeps occupying our parks,& disrupting our bridges"

Then you are apparently too young to remember the protests of the Civil Rights movement and the anti-war protests during the Vietnam war or the protests during the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago.

"I also remember when communism, and socialism was a dirty word,not like it is today"

Sounds like you are also too young to know that there has been a very strong and popular socialist movement in America for a very long time. Socialism was not a dirty word in the 20's and 30's.

"I remember when our government enforced the law and when people obey it."

We have more people behind bars than any other country in the world. How much more law enforcement do you need?

"I can remember when out Presidents were real American's and didn't attempt to destroy civil liberties and u freedom of speech"

Obama IS a real American and he hasn't attempted to do any of those things. You might be confusing him with Bush.

"I also remember when being Patriotic wasn't a dirty word, like it is today"

Patriotic isn't a dirty word. It just doesn't mean what you think it means.

"Obama took us to Libya to Assassinate their leader".

Man. Where do you get your news? We didn't go into Libya, NATO did and we didn't Assassinate Qadaffi. His own people killed him. Read a paper once in a while.

"Herman Cain was ridiculed for what he was accused of"

He wasn't ridiculed for his affair. He was ridiculed because he was an idiot. The affair was just the last nail in his coffin.

To sum up, the America you think you remember never actually existed.

tha malcontent said...

Xavier Onassis said..
To sum up, the America you think you remember never actually existed.


Maybe in your world.

tha malcontent said...

Xavier Onassis said...

Man. Where do you get your news? We didn't go into Libya, NATO did and we didn't Assassinate Qadaffi. His own people killed him. Read a paper once in a while.

BS, that may be how it happened, but both Hilliary's & Obama's plan was to KILL him.

PS, I read at least as many papers as you do, only not the Huffington Post

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

XO

The Civil Rights movement was a bonafide movement to eliminate injustice against people just because their skin color was dark. There was no moral reason to be against people just because their skin is a different color, and that is what that movement was to rectify. The anti-Vietnam War protests were because we had no business being over there getting our troops killed - sort of like what we are doing in Afghanistan and yet those libs aren’t protesting any worthy of protesting - they are protesting the fact that some people make more money than others; simple class warfare. And the 1968 Democratic Convention riots were sparked and promoted by SDS and affiliated radical communists.

Although socialism has slowly worked its way into American society through the policies of the Demokratic party, Socialism and Communism have always been looked down upon by the average American. It is the Demokrats who are making it what it is today - their primary political stance, and their agenda to destroy the American economy following the Cloward-Piven strategy.

Having larger numbers of people in jail is not the same as enforcing the law. The Demokrats fight tooth and nail to prevent any state from enforcing immigration laws, because it is the illegals and their families and friends who vote Demokrat. But the gov’t runs operations like “Fast and Furious” in order to destroy an entrenched Constitutional right of freedom to own guns, and when they are caught no one gets punished!

Obama is NOT a real American; he is a rank traitor selling out to China and Islam. It is the Obama Administration who is pressing to remove all rights of free speech, 2nd amendment rights, forcing same-sex fake marriage upon a nation, etc. Bush did nothing to remove civil liberties.

You have no idea what it means to be patriotic - which is par for course for liberals.

Obama did indeed take us to Libya - we had no business going there no matter what NATO wanted to do.

The America malcontent cited did indeed exist before liberals turned it upside down with abortions, same-sex unions, sexual indoctrination in public schools, removing all mention of God from the public sector, taking us off the gold standard, instituting welfare programs to keep people as slaves to the gov’t, etc, etc, etc.

Xavier Onassis said...

Glenn - The "Cloward-Piven strategy"?!? Seriously? You really need to stop listening to Glen Beck's paranoid, right wing ramblings. Your argument loses a lot of credibility when you just cut and paste crap from Beck's web site. The guy is clinically insane.

Ducky's here said...

Well Joe, in case it all get too frisky for your taste, Obummer just signed legislation permitting expansion of the president's power to detain anyone indefinitely without charges or trial so lng as they are described as terrorist.

With someone like you or Chatsy running the show that probably means OWS. So don't be so down.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

XO,

I hate to disappoint you, but I don't like Beck and never listen to him. Believe it or not, some of us do our own research.

Have you research the C-P papers and those guys connection with ACORN and Obamanation? The nexus is very clear

The strategy of Obama and his cronies is pure socialism - destroy the economy by spending ourselves into oblivion, thereby making it necessary for the gov't takeover and socialism. Obama was a Manchurian candidate, pure and simple. And you libs blindly follow him and his gang rather than thinking for yourselves.

Xavier Onassis said...

Glenn - I've read enough to know that if you really believe that that steaming pile of conspiritorial claptrap is true then you should really seek professional help because your paranoia is out of control.

If you aren't wearing a foil hat yet I'll bet someone gives you one for Christmas.

Seriously. Get. Help.

Jarheads Blog said...

I am sensing a pattern here with Liberals, knock everything and anything said by republicans, blindly follow obama the messiah,and worry about it later, if at all.
Defend the gimme, gimme, gimme OWS groupies in zucatti park, no matter what. We already know what morons think, so tell us something new.
I have a news flash for you brain-dead zombies, real adults work at jobs for their pay-check and demand nothing from their neighbors..Try it.
And try to attend the next TEA Party rally. You might get a clue..

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

XO,

Typical response by a liberal lemming. If someone preaches the truth, they are just paranoid, etc. We would have heard the same from you in 1933 when we would have been warning of what Hitler's intentions were - "Oh you are just being paranoid if you believe that conspiracy stuff; Hitler will fix everything and make everyone equal and do away with those evil capitalists (i.e. Jews)."

Talk about people who just parrot their leaders - that's what liberals always do, which is why it is rare to find a liberal who knows anything about history.

Joe said...

XO: "Then you are apparently too young to remember the protests of the Civil Rights movement..."

Well I'm not. I was there, and I participated in it.

It was not remotely like OWS, not the least.

If you think it was, you are an ignorant fool.

It WAS "civil" disobedience.

There were no rapes among themselves, there were no fights, no vulgarities and no resistance when they were arrested.

Those were protests. OWS is filled with vile, filthy people who are ignorant of what it means to be a citizen of America.

They believe it means do what you want, when you want, where you want, how you want and hurt physically or financially anyone who keeps you from what you want.

They believe they are entitled to what others have worked for.

They believe they should prevent those who work sucessfully from enjoying the fruits of their labors.

President BO said, "At some point you've earned enough money..."

Who gets to decide that? You? The government? OWSers?

Not on my watch, they don't.

Ducky's here said...

Oh Chatsy, it wasn't the left that supported Hitler. Everyone from communists to union leaders to socialists were the first to be put in the camps.

May I suggest Richard Evans' trilogy on the rise of Hitler. Really in depth solid stuff.

Devolving to playing the Hitler card is not a sign of reasoned argument. Help yourself out by getting a source other than World Net Daily.

Ducky's here said...

President BO said, "At some point you've earned enough money..."

Who gets to decide that? You? The government? OWSers?

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Equity bubbles will tip of the right. Have you been paying attention, Joe?

Hint: The sounds, it's your cornermen again yelling "stay down".