Monday, May 9, 2011

PC...The Pakistan Connection

In a previous post I wrote: "Now, in my humble, but correct opinion, it is time to wipe Pakistan off the map and smear her remains on someone's wall like so much nasal mucus."

I wrote that because our government has insisted that Pakistan has been an important ally over recent years.

Poppycock!

I watched ABC's World News Tonight tonight (not my favorite source of news, but hey!) on which a top level Pakistani official revealed that it is assuredly true that Pakistan knew the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden for a number of years.

America's Public Enemy Number One, and he is sheltered under the noses of an "ally."

Some ally!

You liberal/progressives who think I don't know what I'm talking about have ridiculed me for saying we should annihilate Pakistan.

Well, this is America...you have the right to be wrong...and you are.

If I were president (an unlikely scenario, since I have adopted the Pat Paulsonesque stand that if nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve), I would advise America's sympathizers in Pakistan to both leave the country. Then I would destroy what is left.

"But...but...they have nukes!"

So what?

If we destroy them, I promise you they will not use them.

These people harbored the Mastermind of 9/11.

Look...when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, we did not sit back and try to placate them with rhetoric. We took them on and subsequently showed them that we had the capacity to blow them to smithereens.

OBL attacked and killed 3,000 people in the World Trade Center twin towers.

So far, those involved have paid a scant price.

It is time to up the ante and demonstrate once again that if attacked, the United States of America has the resolve and the political will to make you wish you hadn't done it.

I hate war.

I don't want war.

I am not a war monger.

But we didn't start this war.

They attacked us.

It is time to get them, and get them good.

25 comments:

Fredd said...

Sounds good to me, Joe.

Shaw Kenawe said...

So you suggest that the US "...wipe Pakistan off the map and smear her remains on someone's wall like so much nasal mucus."

You suggest that a country of 190 million people be annihilated and reduced to ash? Every single man, woman, and child?

You realize that is insane, don't you?

Maybe not, since a lot of the rhetoric the right engages in is not sane.

There are some things to be thankful for, and one of them is that people like you with crazy ideas will never be president.

Xavier Onassis said...

I'd like for you to explain how you reconcile your irrational, emotional and petulantly childish desire to "...wipe Pakistan off the map and smear her remains on someone's wall like so much nasal mucus." with the oft professed tenets of your cherished Christian faith.

What would Jesus do about Pakistan?

Would he be willing to incinerate every living soul and reduce the entire country to a radioactive slag heap just because the Pakistani leadership did not fall in lock-step obedience with the wishes of the United States?

As a Christian, I would expect you to base the justification for your Final Solution of the Pakistani Problem on the New Testament and the actual teachings of Christ.

Please. Educate us.

Shaw Kenawe said...

XO,

Mr. JJP apparently doesn't give a rat's anus about the innocents who have nothing to do with what went down in the Osama bin Laden problem.

He just wants to kill them all and let God sort them out. How terribly Christian of him.

Imagine all of the charred carcases of women, pregnant women, and children he would love to see strewn about the Pakistani landscape just because he doesn't like what their govenment did or did not do.

This statement by him is a great insight into the mind of the extremists on the Right. They love their Jesus, except when the mercy of Jesus interfers with their hatreds. Then they loves their hatreds and their hope to kill 190+ men, women, and children.

Joe said...

Fredd: Cool.

XO and SK: What you have just proven beyond any shadow of a doubt is that you do not know what you are talking about and that you cannot read beyond the abilitites of a government school preschooler.

Each of you has an aunt whom I know disapproves of the political stands you take and who does not like the raw vulgarity each of you posts. They do not like the hatred you spew toward conservatives and they just think you are very much insane.

What? You don't believe I know your aunts?

Well, what on earth makes you think you know Jesus.

There is absolutely nothing in your attitudes or behavior that indicates that you know Him, yet you are comfortable attacking me because He would not approve of my words.

I suggest a remedial course in reading for you both that includes the use of metaphor, simile and other literary techniques, and how they apply to making points and stating truths.

In terms of reading and descernment, you are both sophomores.

Xavier Onassis said...

Joe - On the contrary, I read quite well.

All of my aunts are dead. Thank you for your sensitivity.

I spewed no hatred towards conservatives in my comment. I simply asked you to elucidate your position.

Being an atheist, I don't know Jesus. Other than what I have read in the scriptures which I am more familiar with than you give me credit for.

It's because I don't know Jesus and you so clearly do that I asked you to reconcile your position on Pakistan with His teachings.

I read well enough to see that you didn't even try.

Again, I did not attack you in any way. I merely asked you to explain an apparent disconnect in your faith and your world view as expressed here on your blog so many times.

A metaphor is a figure of speech in which an implicit comparison is made between two unlike things that actually have something in common.

A simile is a figure of speech in which two fundamentally unlike things are explicitly compared, usually in a phrase introduced by "like" or "as."

In furtherance of my wholly inadequate "government schooling", perhaps you would be kind enough to point out exactly where, in your post about "wiping Pakistan off the map and smear her remains on someone's wall like so much nasal mucus" you employed "metaphor" or "simile". Because I'm not seeing it.

It would seem to me that you would be best served by simply withdrawing your inflammatory statements and apologizing to your readership for posting such an indefensibly unChristian sentiment.

I've not seen a flood of comments from your usual gallery of readers rushing to your defense on this one.

Admit it. You went too far.

Joe said...

XO: Wrong again. You did not read the context of the post, you read the words without understanding.

I already knew the definitions of metaphores and similies, but you (diliberately?) missed the part about other forms of literary device.

And so it goes...proving my point again.

Oh, and BTW, my opinions are my own and do not require the vote of my readers. I don't ask for their defense.

Nick said...

Foreign policy as limned by a 5th grader; how refreshing.

Shaw Kenawe said...

These statements are NOT metaphors or similies, as OX clearly points out:

JJP wrote:

"Now, in my humble, but correct opinion, it is time to wipe Pakistan off the map and smear her remains on someone's wall like so much nasal mucus.

With Ben Ladin in a million dollar compound, 35 miles from the capital, in a squalid neighborhood, near a military installation, there is no way they did not know his whereabouts.

They knew.

But they weren't telling.

They harbored a world-class criminal and should now pay the price.

JJP wrote this:

You liberal/progressives who think I don't know what I'm talking about have ridiculed me for saying we should annihilate Pakistan.

Well, this is America...you have the right to be wrong...and you are.

If I were president (an unlikely scenario, since I have adopted the Pat Paulsonesque stand that if nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve), I would advise America's sympathizers in Pakistan to both leave the country. Then I would destroy what is left.

"But...but...they have nukes!"
So what?

If we destroy them, I promise you they will not use them.


That is not a metaphor, but a clear statement of wanting revenge and wanting to annihilate 190+ million men, women, and children, which would, if taken to your insane conclusion, constitute the largest genocide in the history of this planet--worse than Hitler's, Stalin's, and Pol Pot's combined!

You don't have the courage to look at your own words and see that you advocate genocide.

Your feeble attempt to pass that lunacy off as a "metaphor" is nonsense.

OTOH, it IS a wonderful glimpse into your human values. Thanks for exposing yourself.

Joe said...

SK: I never, not once tried to pass anything in my post as simile or metaphor...not once.

Once again your ignorance of reading shows itself.

Because I mention metaphor and simile does NOT mean I am claiming them...the focus was on devices in general, not specifics.

But you will not understand that because you are incapable of doing so.

Joe said...

XO & SK: OOOPS! You missed this part: "I would advise America's sympathizers in Pakistan to both leave the country."

Funny how you focused on the part you wanted to be indignant about and skipped this little nugget.

Once again you support my opinion of your thought processes.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Well that makes what you wrote so much better. You'd tell American sympathizing Pakistanis to leave, then would annihilate everyone else in the country?


So the innocent Pakistani men, women, and children who do not profess any allegiance to the USA deserve to die?

Got it.

Xavier Onassis said...

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has made repeated calls for Israel to be wiped from the face of the earth.

You have called for Pakistan to be wiped from the face of the earth.

Explain to us, if you can, how you are any different from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Ducky's here said...

Joe, you can't chase the kids off your front lawn you wimp. Stand down with the moy mucho macho posturing.

The blessing here is that everyone has gotten a good look at you Bagger mouth breathers and you're finished.

Xavier Onassis said...

Joe - "Because I mention metaphor and simile does NOT mean I am claiming them...the focus was on devices in general, not specifics."

Okey dokey. Please explain which literary device you WERE employing.

You have said yourself many times that "words have meanings". You have been particularly adamant about this simple truth when it comes to your beloved Constitution.

I'm paraphrasing here, but I believe you have said that "the words mean what the mean and they are not subject to interpretation!"

But that doesn't seem to be true of your words.

Based on your tap dancing and back pedaling I'd have to say that your words mean nothing at all.

So which is it? Genocide or just a meaningless collection of letters strung together to look like sentences and paragraphs?

Xavier Onassis said...
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Joe said...

XO: "So which is it? Genocide or just a meaningless collection of letters strung together to look like sentences and paragraphs?"

Take your pick. You're going to anyway.

Ducky's here said...

FOUR PRINCIPLES THAT DEFINE TRUE CONSERVATISM:

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2. Respect for Life

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Unless they're one of those freaking WOG civilians that are really steaming Joe off.

Joe said...

Ducky: I respect life, but I supported the A-bomb in Japan. I respect life but I supported the action of Bush One in Desert Storm.

You are enigmatically confused about what "respect life" means.

Joe said...

TO ALL: Be sure to read my Thursday post. It will help a lot...or not

Joe said...

SK & XO: Try Hyperbole...see Current post for an explanation.

You won't like it, but see it anyway...if you dare.

Xavier Onassis said...

Oh, I read your silly little hyperbole post, Joe, and I'm not buying it.

I have 1500 blog posts that prove I'm a Grand Master of hyperbole. I know it when I see it.

That wasn't hyperbole. It was vile, putrid, racist, bigotry and hatred.

You deleted the last comment where I asked this, so I'll ask again.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for the destruction of Israel. You called for the destruction of Pakistan. Please explain to us how you are any different than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Or are you suggesting Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was engaging in hyperbole as well?

Your failure to stand by the words you wrote and you continual back pedaling, tap dancing and evading are not like you Joe.

I thought you had more integrity than that. Guess I was wrong.

Joe said...

XO: Your ignorance is showing again. I never deleted your post.

You may have missed it, but Blogger has been having some real issues lately.

You may or may not have actually had a post, but I didn't delete it.

"Please explain to us how you are any different than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad."

Maybe I'm not. Or maybe I am.

You'll never know.

I stand by the words I wrote. But they mean what I meant, not what you want to make them mean.

Here's what they meant: Pakistan is not our friend and should pay for hiding OBL.

That's what the post meant, but that's not a very attention getting way of expressing it.

By using my way I got your attention.

Too bad you're too obtuse to get it.

Here's another literary device you might like: aliteration, as in: President BO is a pathological, putrid piece of protoplasm whose prime purpose on this painful path of pedantic progress is to pause and ponder profound platitudes.

Go ahead...tell me I'm horrid for using such a divice.

Or how about the Shakespearian: You are a mewling idle-headed lewdster?

Finding it hard to keep up?

Xavier Onassis said...

No, Joe, it's never been hard to keep up with you because I'm neither ignorant nor obtuse.

If I had to choose a word to describe "keeping up" with you I think tedious would be more accurate.

You said "I stand by the words I wrote. But they mean what I meant, not what you want to make them mean."

Daniel Moynihan once said "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts."

I'll paraphrase him and tell you "You are entitled to your own words but not your own definitions."

Words have meanings and words have consequences. That's why it is so important to choose them carefully.

Joe said...

XO: "You are entitled to your own words but not your own definitions."

I know the definition of every word I use.

Words gathered sometimes mean something different from words scattered.

Matt 27:5 "Judas..hanged himself."
Luke 10:37 "Go and do likewise."
John 13:27 "What thou doest, do quickly."

The manipulation of words may impart or change their meaning(s).

That's why context matters and why I can use words that have a specific meaning, but gathered in a certain way are exagerations or diminuatives or whatever I mean when I use them.

You do it all the time on your blog.

You use words that refer to bodily functions in contexts that clearly do not refer to those literal activities.

My advice to you: lighten up and get a life...preferably one that matters to someone.

Oh, wait. You didn't ask for my advice.

Your bad.