Thursday, May 15, 2014

Libs Will Defend This to the Hilt



Liberals will come up with diversions, they will link to irrelevant sites, they will say, "They did it, too (as though two wrongs really DO make a right), they'll castigate Fox News for reporting this (what they'll call) "non-event" and they will tell us they're happy to spend their tax dollars on this kind of thing.

Just like they will defend the spending of tons of taxpayer money for solar panels on the White House for the sake of "efficiency" when those panels will light 40 100 watt light bulbs for 20 days (or is it 20 100 watt light bulbs for 40 days?).

Liberals, you are a disease.

11 comments:

Xavier Onassis said...

Not defending Serco at all. Shut 'em down.

Craig said...

You've got it all wrong, Joe. Liberals, like myself, want to shut down private contractors that are ripping off the tax payers. Whoever runs that operation should be prosecuted.

We've been told by conservatives that the private sector is much more efficient. It's cons/Repepubs who have been pushing to privatize everything. The military, schools, prisons, healthcare. In all of those areas the private sector has cost more and produced less. Those things belong to the Commons. When profiteering is let in, that's the disease.

You want to blame the program for the misdeeds of a private contractor. In fact, the ACA has bent the cost curve, fewest people uninsured since that stat has been recorded, lives saved, lower costs for your prescription drugs, etc, etc. You want to trash all that because a private contractor is ripping off the tax payer. I take that personally, the ACA has changed my life in a very positive way.

Here's the difference. Liberals want to see the perpetrators of govt. fraud serve time. Conservatives, in Florida at least, want them to serve as governor. Rick Scott, Medicare fraud.

The panels on the WH are largely symbolic. They will only produce 2%-5% of energy needs. OTOH, they will pay for themselves in 8 years and over the life of the panels (30-40 years) will save the tax payer 2-5% of a hefty electrical bill. Why is that bad? Did you know the Bush admin. installed 167 panels on WH grounds? They are currently powering maintenance facilities at no cost to tax payers.

Joe said...

XO: Oh-oh. Two points of agreement in a row. What is this world coming to?

Craig: " Liberals, like myself, want to shut down private contractors that are ripping off the tax payers."

The problem is, the feds no longer bother to vet their contractors. Thus they end up with companies that are supposed to do something that have nothing to do.

This is not the only example, the federal government has been doing this for decades, under Democrats and Republicans. That is why the feds being involved with things it has no business being involved in is a really bad idea.

" they will pay for themselves in 8 years and over the life of the panels (30-40 years) will save the tax payer 2-5% of a hefty electrical bill."

No, they won't. Maintenance and the elements will see to that. That Bush installed them does not constitute a recommendation. You have not presented us with the cost of maintaining the 167 panels.

I have friends who had them installed on their homes. Asked whether they would do it again, the have all said, "No."

Dave Miller said...

Here's the thing Joe... a bad experience carrying out the policy does not in any way determine the value of that policy.

If this had gone perfectly, would you be supportive?

Duckys here said...

Joe, is this a surprise that there are deadbeats trying to milk a contract?

As Dave says, the test is going to be the overall results of the ACA.
We can expect some abuse at the margins. There is really o way to avoid that in government just as in private business.

These folks should be investigated (apparently they were). There is no disagreement on that.

Joe said...

DM: "If this had gone perfectly, would you be supportive?"

It's a bit of a loaded question. It's in the same category as "When did you stop beating your wife."

I do not support the feds being involved in ACA to begin with, therefore I do not support anything they do regarding it, successful or not. I'm not an "Ends justify the means" guy.

So far, though, it's no contest. They stink at it.

Ducky: "...deadbeats trying to milk a contract?"

No surprise. Just fake surprise that the government didn't properly vet the company and the situation before giving them the contract.

Xavier Onassis said...

iginhnoJoe - "No surprise. Just fake surprise that the government didn't properly vet the company and the situation before giving them the contract."

So the government shouldn't be involved in anything, because the government is incompetent.

The government should privatize everything.

But because the government is incompetent, they don't properly vet the private contractors so any incompetence or misdeeds or even criminal activities that the contractor may engage in are also the fault of the government.

So really, it doesn't matter whether the government does something or your Private Enterprise Entrepreneurs working a government contract does something, everything is always the fault of the government.

So we should just abolish government all together and let everybody do whatever they want.

That's "freedom", right?

Joe said...

XO: "So the government shouldn't be involved in anything,..."

I read back over what I wrote and didn't see that anywhere. I guess you just made it up.

The government should be involved in uniting us as a country, establishing justice under the law, maintaining a peaceful nation, defending the country from attack, promoting (not providing) the general welfare, and making certain citizens and their children and grandchildren enjoy the full blessings of LIBERTY.

I believe that would include the airways (which are dynamic across the entire country), but it most decidedly would NOT include health care.

Beyond that it should be hands off by the feds.

Xavier Onassis said...

Joe - So at what point are you going to admit that the whole premise of your post, about how liberals will rally to the defense of Serco and twist the truth and change the subject, was nothing more than your overactive, twisted, paranoid stereotype of your demonized view of liberals?

Joe said...

XO: "...nothing more than your overactive, twisted, paranoid stereotype of your demonized view of liberals?"

Trust me. Nothing about me is overactive. I twisted my back. I wouldn't be so paranoid if everyone wasn't out to get me. I am a stereotype of a 72 year old Caucasian male.

Liberals ARE demons.

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