Monday, May 19, 2014

I LIKE DOING MATH THE "NEW" WAY, DON'T YOU?


Thank you, Common Core!

(What in the world does that "new" way even mean?)

ADDENDUM: OK. Some commenters (who shall remain nameless, but whose intitals are XO), want a link. They don't trust me. How could that be?

OK...let's try THIS.

36 comments:

Xavier Onassis said...

What Common Core text book did you copy that from?

Link to a URL please.

Joe said...

XO: You may quote me. Use me as your resource.

sue hanes said...

Joe - I don't think much of the common core math. I have enough trouble just doing it the normal way.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

It's just another of the many reasons that intelligent people should remove their children from the government school system.

Joe said...

sh: Agreed.

GEC: Agreed.

XO: Whatever you say...disagree.

Duckys here said...

In other words, Joe, you favor rote memory over insight into the arithmetic algorithm.

Why do you want to dumb down America.

Glenn, intelligent people don't want there children to gain insight into mathematical reasoning?
Word of advice: Stop digging.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Ducky,

The whole "Common Core" program is an intellectual disaster.

Public schools have an agenda to promote revisionist history and socialism. They teach, promote, and foster the homosexual agenda, "sex education" which is nothing more than "have fun but use a condom" mentality, they promote abortion and help the students access abortions. They are anti-God, anti-Christianity, pro-atheism and Islam, self-esteem nonsense, left wing politics, etc, etc, etc.

Nothing but indoctrination institutions.

Craig said...

Word of advice: Stop digging.

So, Glenn ditches the shovel and breaks out the backhoe. Good Lord, he's lost.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Craig,

You are obviously clueless and give full support to the failing government school system.

Oh, wait a minute - you're a liberal so of course you like the leftist indoctrination system of government schools!

Craig said...

I have a daughter in her 9th year of public ed. I've been involved with her studies and the schools she's attended. None of them resemble what you've conjured up in your addled brain. Seriously, you've lost touch with reality.

Joe said...

Ducky: "Why do you want to dumb down America."

Uhh...we put men on the moon using people who were taught the rote method in their elementary years.
We've not done anything using people trained in "new math." And we won't with people who fall victim to Common Core.

Joe said...

Craig: Didn't follow the link or watch the vid, did you?

Craig said...

I did both, Joe. Honestly, I'm not that up on Common Core. It sounds like the parents are having more trouble than the students. Kids are still learning the "old math" and the example you pictured is is to show number relationships. The first thing kids learn is base 10 and then counting by 5's. The new math example is using those concepts as an illustration, not replacing the old method. It's a trick most people have taught themselves over time.

For example, if I need to multiply 9X15, I haven't memorized it. In my head I can easily multiply 10X15=150. 9 is one less than 10 and 15x1=15 from 150 is 135. It would look stupid if I wrote that out as the way to solve the problem but it's the relationship of 9 to 10 in base ten and I do that calculation in my head in a second.

I know it looks like it's making simple subtraction look overly complex but is actually introducing number sentences/ equations and algebraic concepts. They are being taught that in addition to "old math".

Long answer to a short ? and I don't know enough to be for or against CC. I do know I'm against standardized testing. I doubt CC will be the end of western civilization. I'm much more worried about those who want to teach my kid that homo sapiens and dinosaurs co-existed.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Craig,

Perhaps you should get out and around, and even read the daily news.

I ended up pulling my kids out of public school 20 years ago because of the crap that's in schools today but even moreso!

And don't forget asinine "zero tolerance" rules which expel kids pointing fingers or eating pop-tarts into gun shapes.

And if you say sex education isn't happening in your school, I'd say you are a bald-faced liar.

Xavier Onassis said...

G.E.C. - "I ended up pulling my kids out of public school 20 years ago because of the crap that's in schools..."

I hope you at least enrolled them in a qualified private school and didn't attempt to home school them.

Because forcing the insane crap that you believe into a child's brain would be considered child abuse AND set them up for an EPIC FAIL in life.

Universities and employers want students and employees who have a firm grip on reality. And that is one thing that you do not have.

Xavier Onassis said...

G.E.C. - "And don't forget asinine "zero tolerance" rules which expel kids pointing fingers or eating pop-tarts into gun shapes."

If you do a bit of research I think you'll find that those "zero tolerance" rules are disproportionately designed for, aimed at end enforced on minority children.

It is a way white folk came up with to start yanking children of color out of the school system and start channeling them in to the prison-industrial complex at the earliest possible age.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

X.O.

For the first year we had them in a Christian school, but the distance was too far so we home-schooled for my daughter's high school, and my son, who was three years behind her, the remainder of their schooling.

We are more than qualified to teach the state's requirements for all schooling. Both kids were at the top of their class because they were already being taught at home. When my daughter went to school, 5 yrs college with double major, she kept a 4.0 average the whole time and is now a school teacher. My son passed his state testing each year in the 98th percentile. He was not interested in college, because was enamored with woodworking since he was in third grade, and he apprenticed with a cabinet maker and is now an excellent wood-worker who has made cabinets and furniture, etc.

The only "child abuse" is the public educational system which brainwashes them into the leftist ideology.

For someone who you think has no grip on reality, I sure had a successful career! And that includes 10 years in management! But you are such a bigot against Christians and conservatives that you think anyone not entrenched in your liberal ideology must be in some sort of intellectual error. But it is YOU who is the lemming sucking on the leftist pap.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

X.O.

Boy, are you being intentionally stupid or in denial. EVERY single news item I've read about the asinine zero tolerance policies had the "perpetrator" as a WHITE kid!

Typical liberal - everything is racist.

Xavier Onassis said...

Question for Joe and G.E.C. - Do you even know what the Common Core is?

Because it doesn't sound like you do.

"The state-led effort to develop the Common Core State Standards was launched in 2009 by state leaders, including governors and state commissioners of education from 48 states, two territories and the District of Columbia, through their membership in the National Governors Association Center for Best Practices (NGA Center) and the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO). State school chiefs and governors recognized the value of consistent, real-world learning goals and launched this effort to ensure all students, regardless of where they live, are graduating high school prepared for college, career, and life.

The standards are informed by:

The best state standards already in existence
The experience of teachers, content experts, states, and leading thinkers
Feedback from the public"

Did you catch that first part? This was a STATE-LED EFFORT!!!

This wasn't the Federal Bogeyman of your paranoid fantasies out to shove liberal philosophy, atheism and promiscuity down the throats of students.

The individual states came up with this. The feds had nothing to do with it.

Why are you against improving education for every student in America?

Why do you want to promote ignorance and stupidity?

Oh, wait...I just answered my own question. Because you want to increase church attendance and turn out the Conservative vote.

Gotcha!

Xavier Onassis said...

G..C. - "I sure had a successful career!"

Yep! Bankrolled by the American taxpayer.

You're welcome.

Enjoy your American taxpayer bankrolled retirement.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Yes, I know what CC is; I've been reading about it for over a year and it is federally mandated for those schools receiving fed dollars. Some have already found it so wanting that they've pulled out.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

X.O.

Being employed by the Federal government does not make the job any less necessary. The Army is a federal job, the U.S.P.S. was a federal job, as was ATC. Guess what, all necessarily federal by Constitution. You obviously have a problem with federal employees and look down your nose at them. ATC is a highly skilled occupation which most people can't do.

After my Fed jobs I worked for 18 months as a contract instructor for Raytheon - NOT a federal occupation.

You are such a bigot as well as a jerk. You couldn't do the job I did because you don't have enough brain to qualify for it!

Time for me to put the computer to sleep so that it matches your brain.

Xavier Onassis said...

G.E.C. - "EVERY single news item I've read about the asinine zero tolerance policies had the "perpetrator" as a WHITE kid!"

Well then maybe you should get out of the FAUX News echo chamber and get some real news and fact based reporting.

"Zero Tolerance policies target minority students"
http://www.alternet.org/story/659/%22zero_tolerance%22_policies_target_minority_students/

"Racial disproportionality: Black students receive more harsh punitive measures (suspension, expulsion, corporal punishment) and less mild discipline than their non-minority peers, even controlling for Socio-economic Status."
http://www.nasponline.org/resources/factsheets/zt_fs.aspx

"The Impact of Zero Tolerance School Discipline Policies: Issues of Exclusionary Discipline"
http://www.nasponline.org/publications/cq/mocq374impact_zero_tolerance.aspx

White politicians and conservative Republicans have built a School To Prison Pipeline specifically targeted at minorities.

Your white "pop-tart eaters" and "finger pointers" are just the collateral damage of racist school discipline policies.

They have to snatch up the occasional white kid so that like all racists everywhere, they can claim "I'm not a racist!"

Xavier Onassis said...

G.E.C. - "Being employed by the Federal government does not make the job any less necessary. The Army is a federal job, the U.S.P.S. was a federal job, as was ATC. Guess what, all necessarily federal by Constitution."

I never said your job was unnecessary. I think the FAA is absolutely critical!

But it still means your entire career (other than that 18 months) and retirement was at the expense of the American taxpayer via the Federal Government that provided you and your family with the financial means to buy homes, buy cars, go on vacations, send your kids to college, buy bagpipes and dress in kilts.

So what I'm saying is, maybe you should get off the Federal Governments back and stop biting the hand that continues to feed you.

Oh, and, I believe I've pointed this out before...there is nothing in the Constitution about regulating pressurized aluminum tubes full of people flying through the air.

Duckys here said...

@Glenn -- Boy, are you being intentionally stupid or in denial. EVERY single news item I've read about the asinine zero tolerance policies had the "perpetrator" as a WHITE kid!

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So are you maintaining that black students aren't expelled and suspended at a much higher rate than whites?
Maybe you should read the news, Glenn and not get too worked up over a few anecdotal incidents.

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Duckys here said...

Glenn, is the reaction to CC concerned with the curriculum itself or inadequate preparation?

You read the news so I figure you'll have a comprehensive answer.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

X.O.

Typical liberal. To them everything is about racism. And they are the worst racists in history!

And, again as typical with liberals, when you point out facts they claim it's because you only look at conservative media - as if there is much conservative media in existence.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

X.O.

You are an ass. I worked many jobs while in junior high and high school. I also worked as a construction laborer for a couple months after I got out of the Army before I got the job at the Post Office. For the 3.5 years at the U.S.P.S there were many times we were laid off (part-time flexible is what you spend most of your first few years as) where I worked two other jobs at the same time just to keep enough coming in to pay the rent. Even as a controller I did part-time flying jobs.

Since ATC requires treaties between the USA and other nations, that requires it to be a job regulated by the Feds. Also, the airline industry started as air mail service, which was under the Constitution. The whole system needed to be set up nationally, which means it could not be operated by individual states. Etc. BOY are you dumb!

I get on the "government's back" whenever they violate the Constitution, spend tax dollars on un-Constitutional projects, violate my rights with things like Obamacare, gun control, national "education" standards (Dpt of Edu was a gift from Jimmy Carter to the teacher's unions), send people to die in wars we have no business being involved with, promote the homosexual agenda, use the IRS as their own personal punitive organization, etc, etc, etc.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Ducky,

The blacks are being expelled more than whites due to zero tolerance policies about guns; they are being expelled because of their behavior. They are being taught by the racist culture that education is for white people. They get expelled because they have more bad behavior than the white kids; they are more gang-affiliated than white kids.

You know, you really need to get out in the world.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Ducky,
the Curriculum of the CC is the problem. But liberals like you aren't educated enough to see it.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Another example of zero tolerance policies and why no one should remain in the public school system

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/05/15/67895.htm

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Another reason to abandon public schools:

http://christiannews.net/2014/05/19/kentucky-school-to-allow-transgender-students-access-to-opposite-sex-restrooms/

Joe said...

XO: "Because forcing the insane crap that you believe into a child's brain would be considered child abuse AND set them up for an EPIC FAIL in life."

Make me a list of home schooled kids who ended up being failures in life. Then make me a list of public schooled kids who failed.

Compute the percentages of each. Use Common Core methods. I'll see you here in three weeks.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

X.O.

Bankrolled by the American taxpayer.

By the way, everyone on Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid is bankrolled by the American taxpayer.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

another reason to avoid the government indoctrination institutions;

http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2014/05/21/michelle-obamas-controlfreak-lunch-program-n1840860/page/full