Thursday, January 24, 2013


What difference it makes is LIES.

All liberals think lies are OK if they suit their political agenda and/or get them off the hook for something wrong they've done.

She takes "...full responsibility...?

Responsibility always costs something. Always.

Liberals think just saying the words "I take full responsibility" means they have taken responsibility.

No such thing!

If I drive over the speed limit at the urging of my passenger, am stopped by an officer and explain to him that my passenger told me to drive that fast, who is he going to hold responsible? How? Can you say, "Ticket?"

If my passenger says, "I told him to, I take responsibility, " who do you think the officer will write the ticket out to?

Since I am driving, I am responsible and I must pay the ticket.

I repeat: Responsibility always costs something. Always.

What price do you, in your wildest imagination, expect Hillary Clinton to pay for her total lack of response to the security needs of the American Ambassador?

Does this remind you of another Clinton and a place called Waco?


Ducky's here said...

Couple questions, Joe.

Do you really think you've been told the truth through this whole War on Terror con job?

Do you think labeling the initial cause of the attack is important?

Did the CIA wish to block the statement for intelligence or strategic purposes?

Are you aware that the casualties occurred nearly immediately and any military strike would have probably been counter productive?

Do you agree that Obama has been wise to keep us out of this one and smart to cooperate with the French who are doing the heavy lifting?

And to echo Sect. Clinton, why does the initial statement of the cause matter?

This is a fine example of the right searching for an issue since the birth certificate fiasco fizzled.
They are still in a catatonic state and believe that Herman Cain was inaugurated yesterday.

Ducky's here said...

Does this remind you of another Clinton and a place called Waco?

No, the people killed at Waco:

1. Were guilty of killing U.S. marshals attempting to serve a lawful summons.

2. The leader was a psychotic child molester

3. Committed suicide by self immolation.

None of those points remotely relate to Libya.

Joe said...

Ducky, Ducky, Ducky: As you ALWAYS do, you missed the point I was making regarding Waco. Pres. Clinton and Janet Reno both claimed full responsibility. They paid nothing.

Hillary claimed responsibility. She has paid nothing and will pay nothing.

I was not comparing the events, I was comparing "responsibility."

Ducky's here said...

What were they responsible for?

Some crazed end timers commit suicide by self immolation and it's the government's fault?

Again, why does the initial statement of the cause of the Libyan attack matter?

Bunkerville said...

Whitewater, cattle futures.. Travel gate. Just like hubby.

Ducky's here said...


Some White House staff were replaced?

How in the sick fringe right mind does that become a "gate" anything?

Again, why does the initial statement of the cause of the Libyan attack matter?

Xavier Onassis said...

Ducky - Jo Joe wants to talk about "responsibility"? OK. Let's talk about that.

I feel sorry for Jo Joe and his ilk. Benghazi was all they had. They thought they could trump up a cover up, hold Congressional hearings, drag them out through Obama's 2nd term like they did with that ridiculously trivial Lewinsky nonsense with Clinton and hamstring the President and keep him from accomplishing anything.

They wanted to hold Obama responsible for Benghazi.

But Hillary SHUT THEM DOWN! It's over. The Republicans have NOTHING!

And the Republicans know it.

"...Boehner (R-Ohio) said at a gathering of the Republican-oriented Ripon Society on Tuesday, a day after President Barack Obama’s second Inaugural address. “So we’re expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this Administration as they attempt to annihilate the Republican Party. And let me just tell you, I do believe that is their goal — to just shove us into the dustbin of history.”

:: sigh ::

No one has to "shove" you into "the dustbin of history".

With your policies, with your rhetoric, with your hostility towards everyone you deem to be beneath you on the socioeconomic scale, with your fetishistic need to control the reproductive choices of women, with your adherence to a mythological definition of marriage that is not supported at all by Biblical precedence, with your willful and enthusiastic embrace of ignorance, with your hatred of actual facts, with your xenophobic paranoia of a changing demographic, with your embrace of the Tea Party and Birther and Truther idiots, with your desperate clinging to guns and religion, you did a big fat belly flop into the dustbin of history, pulled the lid tightly shut behind you and burrowed head first just as deep as you could go.

You did this to yourselves. It's all on you. Step up and take "responsibility" for your own self destruction.

The world has moved on. You haven't. Buh bye.

If you run into the Bull Moose Party or the Whigs, tell them we said hello.

Ducky's here said...

Truth, XO, they're down to seeds and stems again.

Palin/Trump 2016

That's the ticket.

But let's try once again:
Why does the initial statement of the cause of the Libyan attack matter?

Xavier Onassis said...

Ducky - Ahahahaha! Looks like Jo Joe deleted my comment!

He HATES IT when we prove him and his to be silly fools.

No doubt he'll delete this too.

He doesn't realize that people who follow him via RSS see those comments anyway and his deletions accomplish nothing.

So silly.

Xavier Onassis said...

Some people just don't understand how the Internets work.

Ducky's here said...

Joe, what's up deleting, XO.

Come on 'bro. He's part of the family.

Xavier Onassis said...

Ducky - My crime, my Cardinal Sin, was making sense. I posted actual facts that he couldn't refute. So he just deleted them. So much easier than presenting a counter argument.

Xavier Onassis said...

Ducky - What's REALLY HILARIOUS is that I've never, ever seen a liberal blog delete comments.

But almost every conservative blog I've ever visited routinely delete comments.

What are they afraid of? Ideas? Communication? Interaction? Reality? Facts?

Everything that conservatives do make me think less of them and diminish them.

They make themselves more and more irrelevant every time they open their mouths.

Joe said...

Ducky: The "family" became way, way too dysfunctional.

Z said...


It only doesn't matter when you'd rather blame some guy in the States for having made a video which incites normally peaceful and wonderful terrorists.


Unknown said...

Ducky - Jo Joe said "The "family" became way, way too dysfunctional."

I think by "dysfunctional" he meant "factual".

Joe said...

Z: "...Peaceful and wonderful terrorists."

That seems to be the way the Obama administration sees them. It is at least the way he treats them.

Joe said...

TWIMC: “Joe – You love to trot out the ‘I marched with MLK’ card. Yet you neglect to point that your VIRULENT conservative political point of view spits in the face of Martin Luther King and everything the he fought for…”

“You debase his memory by fraudulently linking your racist agenda to his legacy. Martin Luther King would NOT have been a fan of you."

That was personal, incindiary and totally inappropriate, not to mention factually wrong.

Some people just don't like being held responsible for what they do or say.

Craig said...


Z, It's been established that Susan Rice went out with the Intelligence assessment that was given to her. She also made it clear that it was a preliminary assessment and subject to change. Sen. Johnson's questioning was why it took so long to say it wasn't a protest.

So, what did Hilary lie about? Should Hilary and Susan Rice been conducting their own investigation? They were relying on FBI and Intelligence, the one's doing the investigation, for information. If anyone "lied" it would have been them. Are you ready to call the FBI and Intel Community liars? Over 30 hearings on Benghazi and no scandal to show for it. No wonder you're angry.

Joe, I agree with you that "I take full responsibility" is often an empty phrase. It's mostly used by people who are tangentially responsible. Like heads of agencies who normally wouldn't handle matters that led to the screw up, but in hindsight wish they had. It's rarely used by people who are directly responsible.

I don't consider Hilary sacrosanct. What do you think would be the proper punishment? Fire her? Ticket and fine her? Time in the pokey? A public flogging? Or, a hit to her reputation? I guess 'the people' will decide how severe that last one will be. My guess is, the more the Righties jump the shark, the less people care. There's no there there, Joe.

Joe said...

Craig: "...They were relying on FBI and Intelligence..."

Sort of like Weapons of Mass Destruction, right?

At least be consistent.

Anonymous said...

Could these Demorats been any more disgusting slobber over the PIAPS during her testimony? And that rehearsed job of her bawling out the Republican Senator for daring to ask her questions made me puke.Can you imagine SHE had the never to throw a tantrum when a Republican Senator dared to ask her a question, saying " what difference does it make"?
These creeps never cease to amaze me.
But I guess that Hillary was right. What difference does any it make, nothing is going to get done about it anyway! Someone should ask the family members of those killed in Bengazi, " what difference does it make"?

That pitiful Slim-bag seems to always get away with murder.

Ducky's here said...

Unknown hit it pretty much on the screws

From The Archives of The Political Chic said...

As we all know, of should know by now, Hillary lied and lies without shame or remorse, she has proven herself to be ia pathological liar . We can or we should remember that incident in Bosnian when the snipers were shooting at her, and she and Chelsea had to run for their car, and waht a BS story that was. Only this time, 4 people were murdered.
If Hillary had alerted the Army and took the proper rescue measures perhaps the four men may be alive today. And furthermore, I heard that it may have been the same terrorist’s that were responsible for the Benghazi attact were also involved in the killing of the hostages in Algeria. So we can blame Hillary for that as well. Because if we had prevented one, the other may not have taken place.
As for the hearing, this hearing was a disgusting display of incompetence, there was absolutely NO accountability to be found.. These Senators were shameful, they not only failed, their parties, but the country and the families of these Americans who were MURDERED .

Craig said...

Sort of like Weapons of Mass Destruction, right?

My point is that Hillary wasn't lying. They used the intel report, word for word. The investigation of Benghazi is after the fact, WMD assessment wasn't an investigation of an event. Apples and oranges.

As long as you bring it up, it's clear now that the Bush admin. cherry picked and pressured the intel community to get the answers they wanted. The Downing Street memo,

C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.

How about testimony from the CIA official who coordinated U.S. intelligence on the Middle East, Paul Pillar,

"It has become clear that official intelligence was not relied on in making even the most significant national security decisions, that intelligence was misused publicly to justify decisions already made, that damaging ill will developed between [Bush] policymakers and intelligence officers, and that the intelligence community's own work was politicized,"

So, yeah, intel can be flawed. It can also be manipulated as in the case of WMD. There is no indication that Clinton or the State Dept. pressured the FBI or intel to report what they did. Do you really think it would have made any difference to anything if Susan Rice had come out 6 days later and said it was a planned attack not associated with any protest? What would be gained by covering that up?

Anonymous said...

"What difference does it make ?" Well,she and her boss sent an innocent man to jail on a flimsy pretext, and did so in the most humiliatingly public manner possible. His fate, and what it says about the Government of which she is a part, should make a difference.
And ask the families of those 4 dead Americans "What difference does it it make"?

Joe said...

Hey Anonymous! I love your comment. Would you give yourself a name? Even a fake name would do. Helps tell who is who.

Xavier Onassis said...

Anonymous - "Well,she and her boss sent an innocent man to jail on a flimsy pretext, and did so in the most humiliatingly public manner possible. His fate, and what it says about the Government of which she is a part, should make a difference."

Seriously? When did Hillary Clinton become the head of the Justice Department? I missed that appointment announcement.

Innocent? Really? You want to go there?

"The sentence was the result of a plea bargain between lawyers for Mark Bassely Youssef and federal prosecutors. Youssef admitted in open court that he had used several false names in violation of his probation order and obtained a driver's license under a false name. He was on probation for a bank fraud case."

"All parties agreed that none of the violations had to do with the content of "Innocence of Muslims," a film that depicts Mohammad as a religious fraud, pedophile and womanizer."

"Youssef served most of his 21-month prison sentence for using more than a dozen aliases and opening about 60 bank accounts to conduct a check fraud scheme, prosecutors said.

After he was released from prison, Youssef was barred from using computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer."

"At least three names have been associated with Youssef since the film trailer surfaced – Sam Bacile, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula and Youssef. Bacile was the name attached to the YouTube account that posted the video.

"This is a defendant who has engaged in a long pattern of deception," Dugdale said. "His dishonesty goes back years."

Court documents show Youssef legally changed his name from Nakoula in 2002, though when he was tried, he identified himself as Nakoula. He wanted the name change because he believed Nakoula sounded like a girl's name, according to court documents."

Anonymous said...

Xavier Onassis said...

Anonymous - ."Well,she and her boss sent an innocent man to jail on a flimsy pretext, and did so in the most humiliatingly public manner possible. His fate, and what it says about the Government of which she is a part, should make a difference."
Seriously? When did Hillary Clinton become the head of the Justice Department? I missed that appointment announcement.

Did you also miss the lies that came out of this administration and that this once again proves that they are ALL frauds!

Xavier Onassis said...

Anonymous - What lies are you referring to? Please be specific.

Mel Zacfron 8 subscribers 14,522 video views said...

To the site owner. Please put an warning saying "SWINE" in large flashing letters above all your articles that refer Liberals as it seems many Americans are clearly too dumb to figure it out by themselves.

Hillary Clinton’s shouting, and laughing, at the recent hearing was absolutely the most deplorable actions and statements ever made by an American "diplomat" in American history. Hillary Clinton is a bloated pig who should keep her fat mouth shut. BTW did she gain like 80 pounds in the last two months?
I am DEEPLY ashamed for her and our country for this extreme stupidity and blatant arrogance. She is a disgusting pig in every sense of the word and I hope the world does not judge all Americans by this swine.
This is proof positive she and Obama are the real terrorists who will kill before they try to support a due LEGAL process.
This is WRONG by every measure. If Obama does not relieve her of her position he is a guilty as she is.

Joe said...

MZ8: Hold it! I'm a charter member of SWINE. That's Seniors Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything.

I refuse to raise HC up to this level!