Tuesday, June 17, 2014

Our Next President? I Don't Think So



Unless you disagree with Barack Obama. Then you are a racist.

H/T Lisa

37 comments:

sue hanes said...

Joe - I don't think that most people who disagree with Pres. Obama are racist. I don't think that most people think that.

Hillary as next president? Who knows. It could happen. Or not.

Joe said...

sh: Let's all hope not, right?

Lisa said...

We need a president with common sense

I am tired of left-wing nuts dictating to us.

It isn't time for Hillary that screaming banchi,it's time for Ben Carson.

Shaw Kenawe said...

So Dr. Ben Carson is someone with common sense? The guy who said Obamacare is the worst thing that's happened to this country since slavery?


Worse than the KKK's genocide of African Americans?
Worse than the Civil War?
Worse than the Civil Rights struggle?
Worse than the San Francisco earthquake of 1906?
Worse than the deaths of Americans in World Wars I and II?
Worse than 9/11?
Worse than Hurricane Katrina?
Worse than Newtown, Conn. gun massacre?

Dr. Carson's statement is not something a person with common sense would say.

He also likened gay civil rights to beastiality and pedophilia.

Common sense? No. Crazy talk.

What is so hilarious about right wing hypocrisy is the fact that they pounded Barack Obama day and night when he was running for the presidency because the right wingers said he had the least amount of experience of anyone who'd ever run for the presidency, and that Sarah Palin had more executive experience than Barack Obama did.

Now tell us, Miss Lisa and others, all about the executive experience Dr. Ben Carson has, and if you say it doesn't matter, tell us why it did when President Obama was running for office.

Remember, Carson has been a doctor all his life and never held political office.

If he were to run against Hillary Clinton, how would right wingers counter the same arguments you gave against Mr. Obama: that Sarah Palin had more experience than he did.

Because obviously, Hillary Clinton has years more experience in foreign and domestic policy than does Dr. Carson.

Answers, please.

Xavier Onassis said...

Oh look! We captured the criminal behind the Benghazi attack!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/17/world/africa/benghazi-suspect-captured/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Now the right wing nut jobs can stop with the goon-babble.

Lisa said...

Let go of it Shaw , maybe it's because you like ideologues.
BESIDES, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

you want to start going tit for tat? I think people are sick of that crap already and the politicians with their "experience"
Obama knowing his allegiances, I think the choice will be easy.
Time to take gov't out of the hands of the politicians an back to the people.

Lisa said...

Good for them XO . Too bad they didn't kill him during the 7 hours they were dithering

Xavier Onassis said...

Lisa - "Time to take gov't out of the hands of the politicians an back to the people"

"The people" are idiots.

Gun-toting, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, idiots who are incapable of telling fact from fiction and who put their blind faith and trust in a collection of bronze-age fairy tales written to frighten and control illiterate goat herders.

I don't even want "the people" voting, let alone holding public office.

Any of "the people" who want to run for public office should have to pass a scientific literacy test and certify that they will make no decisions that affect public policy based on their "gut" or their "faith".

Lisa said...

or their ideology right XO? Which most politicians are Chock full of

Shaw Kenawe said...



Lisa: "Let go of it Shaw , maybe it's because you like ideologues.
BESIDES, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? you want to start going tit for tat? I think people are sick of that crap already and the politicians with their "experience"
Obama knowing his allegiances, I think the choice will be easy.
Time to take gov't out of the hands of the politicians an back to the people."

Well at least you're batting 1000, Lisa, in your inability to respond to any of my questions or points. Your answers? Change the subject and run away.

This is why it is impossible to discuss anything with right wingers. When you ask them a direct question that obviously they can't answer (Dr. Carson's lack of executive experience in 2014 vs. Sen. Obama's lack of executive experience in 2008), they redirect and bring up some point that has nothing to do with it, call someone a "ideologue" and skip out.

When we say the right has no good ideas, we can point to people like Lisa for proof.

Speaking of ideas, if Dr. Carson believes the A.C.A. is the worse thing that's happened to this country since slavery, why doesn't he share with us HIS idea for solving our health care problems? He's been a doctor all his professional life, so he would have some ideas on this subject.

What are they? Or is his only qualification for the presidency his ability to make outlandish exaggerations about the A.C.A., something anyone with a soapbox and a street corner could do just as well as Dr. Carson. It solves nothing.

If common sense were the most important qualification for being president, my grandmother, Nonna Rizzo, would have been the greatest of all our presidents.

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Dave Miller said...

Great video Joe, and it highlights the start of the theme that those who oppose Presidential policy are unAmerican.

I am not sure, outside of Vietnam, we have had a time when more people disagreeing with the policies of an admin were considered, and even called unAmerican and traitors.

That gift, to which Hillary was speaking, is directly from conservatives.

Liberals have their issues too, too frequently branding people with the racist moniker, but to be called traitors and unAmerican is almost exclusively done by the right.

Lisa, who provided the video, is a good example, calling President Obama unAmerican, and then providing no proof.

Was she racist? No, not at all... fair? Again, no, not at all.

All we've asked for is some evidence.

How about it Lisa?

Lisa said...

Shaw apparently you haven't listened to Ben Carson enough. Maybe if you stop listening to Preacher Obama long enough to come Down to earth.
I think Ben Carson is relate-able and people will listen to him. They are tired of self promoting speeches we heard over the last 8 years.
He has a sort of JFK ability to inspire not divide. It's not the people against Obama who caused this division,it's Obama himself who did.
After all that was what he did in Chicago as the Community Organizer. Telling people who to like and who not to like an who to blame the ills of the world on.
He is an agitator,even though he tries to appears suttle.

Lisa said...

Dave it is not only a few people who mention it,Alan Keyes said his relations said he was born in Nairobi.
is he lying? Is everyone lying Shaw? to you anyone who questions it is lying or crazy right?
Un-American also means someone who has Disdain for this country as Bill Ayers and Rev Wright . You don't believe Obama was raised with Anti American Sentiments?
Like I said before if there were this much uncertainty for any republican candidate the media would have been doing it's job investing it instead of attacking those who dare make mention of it.
They are just as complicit in helping with the division

Shaw Kenawe said...

Shaw apparently you haven't listened to Ben Carson enough. Maybe if you stop listening to Preacher Obama long enough to come Down to earth.

Lisa, I've never referred to Dr. Carson as anything but "Doctor Carson," or "Ben Carson." That's first. Second there is nothing on my blog or in anything I've written that would have anyone, except an Obama hater, think I worship him. To support one's president from a political party that one has more agreement with than the opposition is not "worshipping."

If I used your strange logic, you'd be designated a "Preacher" Ben Carson worshipper who can't come down to earth. After all, Dr. Carson has done nothing politically than make some pretty speeches, something you claim is the only thing Mr. Obama has done.

You obviously can't see your own biases because you're too busy labeling me and others.


Lisa: "I think Ben Carson is relate-able and people will listen to him. They are tired of self promoting speeches we heard over the last 8 years."

When you speak of "they" in the above, you're speaking of the folks YOU agree with and no one else.

Lisa: "He has a sort of JFK ability to inspire not divide. It's not the people against Obama who caused this division,it's Obama himself who did."

Lisa, you haven't studied history, have you. JFK's election was one of the CLOSEST in US history, so much so that half the country HATED HIS GUTS, and there were reports of cheering in certain parts of the south when news came of his assassination. The Birchers in Texas considered him an enemy of the US.

Either you haven't read history or you have a selective memory.


Lisa said...

"Dave it is not only a few people who mention it,Alan Keyes said his relations said he was born in Nairobi."


So you're quoting some third-hand information someone heard someone "mention?"


"...is he lying?" Yes.

"Is everyone lying Shaw?"

Where it concerns Mr. Obama's birth, YES.

"...to you anyone who questions it is lying or crazy right?"

Absolutely, YES. There is no question whatsoever that Barack Obama was born in the USA. You and others who continue to gnaw on that old bone have NEVER produced a drop of evidence to prove otherwise. And saying Alan Keyes heard someone mention something a relative in Kenya say is not evidence. It's hearsay and would be laughed out of any court of justice.


Lisa: "You don't believe Obama was raised with Anti American Sentiments?"

Well I wasn't there within the bosom of his family while he was being raised. Were you? Or are you again repeating rumor and hearsay? That's what trouble-makers and gossipers do. And we know you're not one of those sort of people, are you.

No president in the history of this nation has ever had the circumstances of his birth investigated as much as President Obama. And nothing has come of it.

Absolutely nothing. And you and I know that if there were anything to it, the facts would have been uncovered by now.

You've got to come to terms with that truth at some point.

Duckys here said...

Perfect timing ... the head of the Benghazi raid has been captured without incident.

Not bad for a communist, Muslim, Kenyan usurper, huh Lisa?

Can't wait to hear what Mittens has to say.

Duckys here said...

@Lisa --
It isn't time for Hillary that screaming banchi,it's time for Ben Carson.
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Do you mean banshee?

Duckys here said...

XO, now that the Benghazi leader has been caught does Benghazi become just "last Season" and we move on to how Obama lost Iraq?

Dave Miller said...

Yes Lisa... they are lying... just because someone says it, no matter their position, does not make it so.

Every major leader in the GOP has said Obama is a US citizen and was born here. Are they all lying?

If that is your standard of proof, that someone said it, you've got some big issues.

Shep Smith said the problems with the Iraq war are because the Bush Admin was 100% wrong in their statements and planning. Is he lying?

Just bring us some proof, or evidence. I know it is hard to admit you are wrong, or there is no proof and you choose to believe anyways, but politics is not like that.

Faith, maybe... politics, never... sorry.

Dave Miller said...

Ducky, slight correction... only one of the Benghazi perps...

Now we will hear that the announcement was timed to detract from news of the problems in Iraq...

BTW, does anyone, Glenn, Joe, Lisa... have a suggestion as to what we should be doing in Iraq now?

Or should we just complain?

Duckys here said...

Alan Keyes said his relations said he was born in Nairobi.
is he lying?

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Not exactly. The ambassador from the planet Mongo is certifiable and he probably believes that nonsense.

On the other hand, Orly Taitz (where is she these days?) is a liar.

Lisa said...

I bet in your minds you have a slight doubt. How can any of you not?
I can't believe that you all believe 100% without any resonable doubt that it is may be true or where his lliances are deeply rooted

Joe said...

XO: "The people" are idiots."

Are those the same people who elected BO...twice, as you so often point out?

If that's the case, I agree with you.

Ducky: The Benghazi scandal is extremely important. The embassy should NEVER have been left defenseless. It is also one of a growing number of inept or deliberate policy decisions made by this president, including NSA, IRS, VA, Fast and Furious, the release of 5 Guantanimo terrorists, the roll-out of ObamaCare, the very fact of ObamaCare, and a series of proven lies that have characterized this administration.

President BO is a thug who thinks he should rule by fiat.

Now there's the utter failure in Iraq. That's his. He became the Commander in Chief and decided we had done enough and the Iraquis were well trained. He said, "...we’re leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people."

He enumerated our victories in Iraq, which our withdrawal swiftly turned into losses, one by one, starting with the insurgency.

He said, "...turned the tide toward peace.”

PBO (tap) announced "...vanquishing of al Qaeda in Iraq."

He trumpeted the breaking of the Taliban and the idea that terrorists will now have no safe haven.

He said, "America is stronger and the world more secure."

How many miss-steps and miss-statements would he have to make before you realized he's just a mess, period?

Answer: Your glasses are so rose colored about him that you cannot see the damage he has done and is doing.

Shaw Kenawe said...


Lisa, this is the link you left @4:06 PM


"In the bloody conflict there, which already has claimed some 700 lives, Obama appears to have sided with opposition leader Raila Odinga, head of the same Luo tribe to which Obama’s late Muslim father belonged."


The person who wrote that report qualified the statement with the word "appears." It was NOT a definitive statement, which means he really didn't know if it was true.

Do yourself and the public a favor, Lisa, please. If you are ever called upon for jury duty, decline. It would be a supreme injustice for you to pass judgement on anyone, especially if a person's life depended on it.

You believe hearsay and rumors, and you don't know a definitive statement of fact from a mere supposition.

BTW, it is "banshee," an Irish Gaelic word, and "subtle" (from the Latin subtilis meaning fine, delicate), not suttle, although phonetically "suttle" makes more sense.

Xavier Onassis said...

Joe - "President BO is a thug..." Aaaand, there's the racism!

Thug is the term white folk use when they don't want to use the "N" word.

Unless, of course, you are accusing President Obama of being a worshipper of the Goddess Kali.

Which, quite frankly, wouldn't be any more absurd than all of the other things the right wing nuut jobs have accused him of.

Hey, remember how Obama was going to round up all the Christians into FEMA reeducation camps and take your guns away?

It's been 6 years...do you know anyone who has had their guns taken away from them by federal agents?

Where all da FEMA camps be at???

Duckys here said...

Ruh roh, Joe might be bad for the Teabgs

Joe said...

XO: "Thug is the term white folk use when they don't want to use the "N" word."

What a stupid statement. Al Capone was a thug. I have never heard the "N" word applied to him.

Thinking all thugs are black is racist.

Duckys here said...

Joe, this isn't the roaring twenties.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Joe, here's the definition of thug from the dictionary:

1. a violent person, especially a criminal.
synonyms: ruffian, hooligan, vandal, hoodlum, gangster, villain, criminal; More
2.
historical
a member of a religious organization of robbers and assassins in India. Devotees of the goddess Kali, the Thugs waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travelers, in a ritually prescribed manner. They were suppressed by the British in the 1830s.

Can you seriously tell us that President Obama is a criminal? A vandal? A gangster?

When you use hyperbole like that, you lose credibility.

Exactly how has President Obama attacked you or anyone under the definition of a "thug." Give us concrete examples, not rightwing opinions, which do not count.

I'm betting you'll change the subject or come up with a silly answer.

Lisa said...

Shaw I am a very good judge if character.
And I already served on 1 trial and I was able to smell that rat the minute his attorney presented his bogus claims.
I passed judgement yes,and even after 2 grueling weeks it went exactly as I initially predicted. "Bogus"

Joe said...

SK: "Can you seriously tell us that President Obama is a criminal? A vandal? A gangster?"

Without question. He disobeys his own law, he steals hope and he runs with a real iffy crowd.

Joe said...

SK: "... not rightwing opinions, which do not count."

How come your opinions count and mine don't?

Lisa said...
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Lisa said...

Joe Shaw's opinions matter because she's a liberal and we all know liberals are "enlightened"

Duckys here said...

Enlightened and so much more, Lisa.

Lisa said...

Oh yes so much more Ducky,typical liberal thinking so highly of yourself just like Hillary and Obama

Grung_e_Gene said...

Republicans are reduced to pathetic mewling curs, sending out tantrum tweets. Waaaah! The Republicans tweeted! Waaaah! We still have a wholly bullshit Trey Gowdy led Benghazi Panel working! Waaaah! This arrest will undermine all the undermining of the President we've done! Waaaaaah!

Many years ago the mewling punk ass bitch Republicans embarked on a quest to blame all their evil actions upon President Obama. They wanted the Presidency back in order to continue their Agenda to impoverish Americans and Subjugate the Nation to the Will of the Plutocracy

Now, matter what the question or incident, Conservatives would declare it a scandal and throw a tantrum. Republicans and Conservatives believed that if they flung enough shit and shut down the government enough times, everyday Americans who are working harder and longer to try an reach the American Dream and don't have time to uncover all the Right-Wing lies and bullshit, would just throw up their hands and let the Republicans have the Presidency as happened in 2000.

Fortunately, unlike in 2000 when Republicans were allowed to steal the Presidency, and the Nation and entire world were cursed with the evil ineptitude of the George W(orst President Ever) Regime, which resulted in thousands of Americans dead and wounded in the worst attack on American soil in the Nation's History, thousands of Americans dead and tens of thousands wounded in Iraq, $5 Trillion dollars of tax payer dollars wasted and stolen, and the impoverishment of millions of Americans at home during the Republican Recession and Bush housing bubble.

Thankfully a man of honor, Barack Obama, is in the White House now and the Nation's enemies both foreign and domestic hate him.