Wednesday, June 9, 2010

YADDA, YADDA, YADDA

He is the most inept, amateurish, sophomoric, incompetent president since or before Jimmy Carter.

He is Barack Obama, and he has no idea what he is doing.

He is supposed to be highly intelligent.

Although we don't have any actual evidence of it, he is reportedly a graduate of Harvard Law School.

He is supposed to be a Constitutional scholar, although he was actually only a Constitutional lecturer and obviously neither knows nor respects the Constitution.

He is supposed to have skills as an organizer, although his "skills " associated him with one of the most corrupt, vile, horrible organizations in history: ACORN, known now to have been involved in voter fraud, assisting with prostitution and other nefarious deeds.

He is supposed to be an American citizen, although he refuses to do the one simple thing that would lay the discussion to rest: produce his original birth certificate.

Now he is "in charge" of the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

He said so, himself.

In fact, he has said a lot.

He has done almost nothing.

Evidence:

On May 27: He said that he “accepts responsibility” for directing the clean-up of the oil spill. It was that same day that his daughter is supposed to have asked him:“Did you get it plugged, Daddy?”

What was the end result of his accepting responsibility for directing the clean-up?

Nothing.

The press, even the Mainstream Press began to notice that President BO did not seem very passionate about the whole oil spill thing, so on May 29 Obama told us it is "as enraging as it is heartbreaking" that this "natural disaster" has occurred.

What was the result of his "outrage?"

Nothing.

It was on June 1 that Obama introduced a national commission to examine the causes of the spill. (We already knew the cause. Something on the rig broke and an explosion ensued.)

What has been the effect of the commission?

Nothing.

On June2 Obama decided that he should tap into public outrage over the spill and press Congress to scrap billions in oil company tax breaks and pass legislation to help the nation kick a dangerous "fossil fuel addiction." (Never mind that anything that would take its place is 50 or 60 years off into the future...think of it: battery powered 747s! I can hardly wait!)

The result?

Nothing.

June 3, The president says in an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live" that BP has felt his anger — although he says "venting and yelling at people" won't solve the problem.

Ah! Now that BP feels his anger, something will get done that would otherwise have not gotten done, like capping the oil flow (which BP had already set about doing).

The result of his statement?

Nothing.

June 4: Obama rips into BP, asserting, "I don't want them nickel-and-diming people down here."

Result?

Nothing.

June7: his administration will "make sure" that BP fully compensates Gulf Coast individuals and businesses harmed by the spill. (So far only a pittance of money has been distributed to help those affected)

Result?

Nothing.

On June 8: Obama says in an interview on NBC's "Today" show that his talks with Gulf fishermen and oil spill experts are not an academic exercise. They're "so I know whose ass to kick." And "He wouldn't be working for me after any of those statements..."

And with that remark he proved his unpresidentiality.

Other presidents have been feisty, but few have been openly vulgar and unpresidential publicly. With this, President BO has identified himself with teeny-boppers, rappers and nere-do-wells, just as I have said about him from the beginning.

Well , now the public has "seen his anger," which seems, by the way, very superficial and self aggrandising.

The result?

Nothing.

Here's the bottom line: President BO is all talk, all lecture, all huff-'n-puff and altogether ineffective.

I think a little change would give us more hope.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Re: "Refuses to do the one simple thing..."

Obama HAS shown his birth certificate. He posted it and showed the physical copies of the document to both Politifact and FactCheck.

The document he posted and showed is the Certification of Live Birth. It is the official birth certificate of Hawaii and it is the only one that Hawaii issues, and Hawaii no longer issues the original birth certificate even when someone asks for his own original birth certificate. The Certification of Live Birth is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department and the branches of the military, and in Obama's case the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii and once by the governor of Hawaii.

Because the Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate, it ALONE is sufficient to prove birth in the USA to the US State Department and the branches of the military. In Obama’s case, there is more. There is the confirmations of the two officials and the governor of Hawaii.

In addition, there is this witness, who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii in 1961 and writing home to her father about it (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2170432/posts).

Also, we have transcripts of the grandmother interview in which the Kenyan grandmother says repeatedly that Obama was born in Hawaii, and in a separate interview she said that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of the birth was in a letter received from Hawaii many months after the birth.

Joe said...

Anonymous: Normally I delete anonymous commenters, but this one is indicative of the typical way liberals think and disparage.

Let's assume that you are correct and that all of my assertons about President BO's reluctance to reveal his "original" birth certificate and his transcripts of his school were absolutely wrong.

I've been wrong before. I was actually wrong twice last year.(Really.)

What has that to do with the point of the post?

Like President BO's words, NOTHING.

You have either been too stupid to have understood the point of the post, or you have chosen to emphasize the parts that had no bearing on the point of the post.

There are no other alternatives.

That is a TYPICAL liberal tactic. It attempts to negate a truth by negating an unrelated fact or imagined fact.

You people are dishonest in your attempts to "dialog," because you are not interested in dialog, only in projecting your agemda.

You are cowards, because you refuse to reveal your identy, preferring to hide behind the veil of anonymity.

If you want to respond to this, at least add you name to the end of your comment. Even just a first name...or a fake name will do. It will allow us to distinguish among anonymous commenters.

Otherwise, your comment will simply be deleted.

So, how effective has President BO been in cleaning up the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The most I have seen him DO is pick up a tar ball and drop it.

So impressive!!!

Nevertheless, I do hereby proclaim him to be the smartest American who has ever lived, loved by all and soon to be President of the World.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Joe,

You accuse Anon of being too stupid to understand the point of the post?

YOU are the one who inserted the false claim that Mr. Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate...

JOE: "He is supposed to be an American citizen, although he refuses to do the one simple thing that would lay the discussion to rest: produce his original birth certificate."

It apparently angered you that Anon answered your ridiculous assertion that Obama refuses to "lay the discussion to rest." No, Joe, by continuing to bring the matteer up, it is YOU who refuses to lay the discussion to rest, and when evidence arrives, you call the person who presents it "too stupid."

And then you suggest Anon is off topic on something YOU brought into the discussion.

Then you bring up this point: You question Obama's intelligence and the fact that he graduated from Harvard Law School--claiming there's no evidence of it?

Sometimes I think you write this stuff just because you want people to come and read it and respond. It is difficult for me to think that you actually believe there is doubt that the president graduated from HLS with high honoros.

You actually believe that Harvard Law School, one of this country's most prestigious educational institutions, would allow someone--anyone--to claim he or she graduated with honors if it were not true? And would allow someone as famous as Mr. Obama to claim this without it being the truth?

You actually believe this because you haven't personally seen his diploma?

You apparently dislike the man to such a degree that even facts that are incontrovertible are to be ignored because they dont' fit your feelings of contempt for the man. In your world, his hard-earned accomplishments are to be denied and questioned, no matter what the facts are.

Mr. Obama not only produced an official Hawaiian birth certificate, he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School and was the president of the Law Review, another prestigious accomplishment.

That those facts enrage you to the point of denying them says more about you than it does our president.

Joe said...

SK: He hasn't...unless you change the definition of what a birth certificate is...which Anon (and maybe Hawaii, too) has.

The Certification of Live Birth may well be official, but it is not the original birth certificate.

Just because Hawaii no longer issues the "original" birth certificate does not mean that President BO has produced his.

It is his lack of production of his original birth certificate for which I pine...not his Certification of Live Birth.

I NEVER denied that he was born or that he graduated from Harvard Law School or held the position of President of Harvard Law Review.

I simply didn't.

I have no idea whether or why Harvard would allow him to get away with claiming he had graduating from there if he had not.

I didn't even say it was not true.

I said I have not seen the evidence of it, and that is true.

That does not speak to the verasity of his claims, or the lack thereof.

If he is a bone-fide citizen, and if he did graduate from Harvard, he has failed to allow them to properly educate him.

His behavior, his speeches and his philosophy scream, "I will not be influenced by what I learned. I will think what I want, even if it is not true!"

You write: "And then you suggest Anon is off topic on something YOU brought into the discussion."

It wasn't a discussion, it was a post. His statement was off point, not off topic.

I used the opening of my post to set the stage for the point, not to serve AS the point.

Anon missed the point, and so did you.

So that you won't go away feeling uneducated, I will reveal the point (since you seem perfectly unable to discern it on your own): President BO has done NOTHING to mitigate the damage caused by the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexicl...absolutely, positively NOTHING.

As of the writing of this post, he had not even declared the coastline OR the Gulf of Mexico a disaster area.

He's done NOTHING but talk: Yadda, yadda, yadda.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Joe,

Okay. I give.

This is your blog, you set up the crazy rules: People must somehow determine which point in your discussion--oh wait--this isn't a discussion, it a post--you will allow us to answer, otherwise we're missing the point.

We must let pass your snide remarks about the president's citizenship and education because YOU were using them as a literary device to show what an incompetent he is.

I see.

We're to ignore your playing fast and loose with facts and let you continue to spread lies and misinformation about Obama's birth and education so that your greater "truths" can be elucidated by us dishonest Liberals.

Your answer to me can be defined as dissembling. People do this all the time when they try to wiggle out of a weak defense.

Joe said...

SK: So, what was your list of President BO's accomplishments relative to the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico again?

I guess I missed it in your responses.

Or...maybe you just avoided the issue because you know he has actualy done NOTHING.

Oh, and BTW: I DO get to point out my point. It acually IS my blog.

Funniest thing.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Here's Obama administration's list of what has been done since the oil spill:

April 20 (10 p.m.): Oil rig explosion. An April 21 ABCNews.com article reported, "An overnight explosion in the Gulf of Mexico rocked the Deepwater Horizon oil rig off the Louisiana coast, sending spectacular bursts of flame into the sky. The fires were still raging today." The U.S. Coast Guard's National Oil and Hazardous Substances Response System assigns primary responsibility for cleaning up oil spills to the spiller as the responsible party.

April 21: Deputy Secretary of Interior, Coast Guard dispatched to region. An April 22 White House statement noted that following a briefing with President Obama, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Thad Allen, Department of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, EPA Deputy Administrator Bob Perciasepe, and FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate, "Deputy Secretary of the Interior David Hayes was dispatched to the region yesterday to assist with coordination and response." The Coast Guard announced that four units were responding to the fire, with additional units en route.

•Search and rescue efforts begin for 11 missing. An initial focus of the response was the search for 11 missing crewmembers. The search was called off April 23.
•BP confirms U.S. Coast Guard was "leading the emergency response" In an April 21 press release, British Petroleum stated that it was "working closely with Transocean and the U.S. Coast Guard, which is leading the emergency response, and had been offering its help - including logistical support."
•CNN.com: "The U.S. Coast Guard launched a major search effort." An April 22 CNN.com article reported:
The U.S. Coast Guard launched a major search effort Wednesday for 11 people missing after a "catastrophic" explosion aboard an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico engulfed the drilling platform in flames.


Another 17 people were injured -- three critically -- in the blast aboard the Deepwater Horizon, which occurred about 10 p.m. Tuesday. The rig was about 52 miles southeast of Venice, Louisiana, said Coast Guard Senior Chief Petty Officer Mike O'Berry. As of late afternoon Wednesday as many as six firefighting vessels were working to contain the massive fire caused by the explosion.

Shaw Kenawe said...

And this:

April 23:

The Department of the Interior, MMS [the U.S. Minerals Management Service], and the Coast Guard continue to support the efforts of the responsible parties to secure all potential sources of pollution. Both federal agencies have technical teams in place overseeing the proposals by BP and Transocean to completely secure the well. Until that has occurred and all parties are confident the risk of additional spill is removed, a high readiness posture to respond will remain in place.

April 25: Response team implements plan to contain oil spilling from source, weather delays cleanup.

•Storms delay response efforts. An April 25 Associated Press article reported, "Stormy weather delayed weekend efforts to mop up leaking oil from a damaged well after the explosion and sinking of a massive rig off Louisiana's Gulf Coast that left 11 workers missing and presumed dead." AP further reported:

The bad weather began rolling in Friday as strong winds, clouds and rain interrupted efforts to contain the spill. Coast Guard Petty Officer John Edwards said he was uncertain when weather conditions would improve enough for cleanup to resume. So far, he said, crews have retrieved about 1,052 barrels of oily water.

•Oil recovery and cleanup were to resume after adverse weather passed. On April 25, the unified command team responding to the spill stated:

The unified command is implementing intervention efforts in an attempt to contain the source of oil emanating from the wellhead at the Deepwater Horizon incident site Sunday.

The unified command has approved a plan that utilizes submersible remote operated vehicles in an effort to activate the blowout preventer on the sea floor and to stop the flow of oil that has been estimated at leaking up to 1,000 barrels/42,000 gallons a day.

Also, BP is mobilizing the DD3, a drilling rig that is expected to arrive Monday to prepare for relief well-drilling operations.

Additionally, the oil recovery and clean-up operations are expected to resume once adverse weather has passed. These efforts are part of the federally approved oil spill contingency plan that is in place to respond to environmental incidents.

Shaw Kenawe said...

And this:

April 26:

Response crews "to resume skimming operations." On April 26, the response team stated, "Sunday, an aircrew from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service sighted five small whales during an over flight in the vicinity of the oil spill, which currently measures 48 miles by 39 miles at its widest points with varying levels of sheening, and is located 30 miles off the coast of Venice, La." The command team further stated, "Following adverse weather that went through the area, response crews are anticipated to resume skimming operations today," including 1,000 personnel, 10 offshore vessels, 7 skimming boats and more than 14,000 gallons of dispersant. At that point 48,384 gallons of oily water had been collected.

April 28:

Federal officials realize spill was far more severe than BP led them to believe. An April 28 New York Times article reported, "Government officials said late Wednesday night that oil might be leaking from a well in the Gulf of Mexico at a rate five times that suggested by initial estimates." The Times further reported:

Shaw Kenawe said...

And more:

April 29:

Napolitano declares spill "of national significance"; BP insists its "plan can handle this spill." On April 29, BP official Doug Suttles appeared on ABC's Good Morning America and stated, "At this point, I believe our plan can handle this spill, and that's what we're doing." That day, Napolitano declared the spill "of national significance," explaining that "we can now draw down assets from across the country, other coastal areas, by way of example; that we will have a centralized communications because the spill is now crossing different regions."

•EPA preparing for oil to hit shore. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson commented at an April 29 press briefing: "[A]s the oil does hit the shoreline, EPA will provide support to assess the impacts on the coastal shoreline and play a key role in implementing the cleanup. As a daughter of the Gulf Coast, I know that it is our job to ensure people that we will be eyes and ears working with the states who have valuable and vital resources to monitor air, water and land quality." Jackson also stated that the EPA has deployed air-monitoring aircraft "that is gathering information on the impact of the controlled burn on air quality, both in the area of the burn, and, of course, further away."

•AP: "Air Force sends planes to help with Gulf oil spill." An April 30 Associated Press article reported: "Two Air Force planes have been sent to Mississippi and were awaiting orders to start dumping chemicals on the oil spill threatening the coast, as the government worked Friday to determine how large a role the military should play in the cleanup."

•WSJ: Navy joins Obama's "robust response." An April 30 Wall Street Journal article reported that "The U.S. Navy said it will send more than 12 additional miles of inflatable oil booms to the Gulf, as well as seven towable skimming systems and 50 contractors with experience operating the equipment."

The article continued: "The Navy is making two large facilities available to the Coast Guard personnel and BP-employed contractors who are currently taking the lead in fighting the spill. Military officials said the booms and skimmers were being sent to a Naval construction base in Gulfport, Miss. The Navy also opened its air base in Pensacola, Fla., to the effort."


Your claim that Obama and the government did "NOTHING" IS FALSE.

Joe said...

SK: 'Napolitano declares spill "of national significance"; BP insists its "plan can handle this spill."'

Talk, not action.

'"At this point, I believe our plan can handle this spill, and that's what we're doing."'

Talk, not action.

'Napolitano declared the spill "of national significance," '

Talk, not action. And NOTHING came of it.

'...we will have a centralized communications because the spill is now crossing different regions."'

Talk, not action. As of today this has NOT come to fruition. Promises get nothing DONE.

"EPA will provide support to assess the impacts..."

Talk, not action. Where EPA DID evenually show up, they spent 4-6 hours per day doing NOTHING...they could not be found on the beaches or anywhere else.

"Air Force sends planes to help with Gulf oil spill."

The planes sat on the ground, finally getting airborne only to be told by EPA that what they were dropping they had to stop dropping because it was harmful to the environment and to people.

"The U.S. Navy said it will send more than 12 additional miles of inflatable oil booms to the Gulf, as well as seven towable skimming systems and 50 contractors with experience operating the equipment."

So, the oil is all gone now due to the Navy's efforts? NOPE. Turns out that 12 mile of booms is like $.10 out of $1 million. The "experts" are argueing among themselves and the skimmers have yet to be used.

So far, all you have proved is that my claim that Obama DID nothing is TRUE.

See, good intentions, posturing, and wearing rose colored glasses, at which ALL liberals are expert, accomplishes NOTHING. That is what has happened in the Gulf of Mexico as a result of President BO's "efforts"...NOTHING.

He is inept and knows ONLY how to talk. He absolutely, positively CANNOT lead...he does not know how.

Shaw Kenawe said...

It's useless to present any sort of evidence or try to discuss issues with someone who refuses to accept the fact that Obama has provided proof of his American birth and proof of his Harvard Law education.

Your doubts and claims about his birth certificate and Harvard Law degree are false--it follows anything else you claim about Mr. Obama and his motives or actions will likely be false as well.

Therefore, why should I or anyone take seriously your claims that Mr. Obama has done nothing regarding BP's Gulf oil spill?

Joe said...

SK: "...it follows anything else you claim about Mr. Obama and his motives or actions will likely be false as well."

That is a false conclusion.

Let's assume for a moment that I actually said he was NOT a citizen (which I did NOT say, but you deduced) and that he was NOT a Harvard grad (which I did NOT say but you deduced), and that I was absolutely wrong about both.

That does not demonstrate that he HAS DONE anything to mitigate damage from the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

But it IS typical of liberals' thought processes.

Your "list" had NOTHING actually DONE...unless, of course, we change the definition of "done."

Shaw Kenawe said...

EPA will provide support to assess the impacts on the coastal shoreline and play a key role in implementing the cleanup.

This is SOMETHING being done.

The Navy is making two large facilities available to the Coast Guard personnel and BP-employed contractors who are currently taking the lead in fighting the spill.

This is SOMETHING being done in fighting the spill.


The command team further stated, "Following adverse weather that went through the area, response crews are anticipated to resume skimming operations today," including 1,000 personnel, 10 offshore vessels, 7 skimming boats and more than 14,000 gallons of dispersant. At that point 48,384 gallons of oily water had been collected.

This is SOMETHING being done!

"Air Force sends planes to help with Gulf oil spill." An April 30 Associated Press article reported: "Two Air Force planes have been sent to Mississippi and were awaiting orders to start dumping chemicals on the oil spill threatening the coast

And those are just 4 examples of what is being done to combat this spill. There are others in my comments that you deliberately choose to pretend are not there. All of these agencies are part of the US Government of which Mr. Obama is the Chief Constitutional Officer.

Repeating that Obama's done nothing doesn't make it so. The facts dispute your claim.


JOE wrote: He is supposed to be an American citizen, although he refuses to do the one simple thing that would lay the discussion to rest: produce his original birth certificate.

And JOE wrote this: Although we don't have any actual evidence of it, he is reportedly a graduate of Harvard Law School


It is very cagey of you to claim you never actually wrote that Obama was not a US citizen or a Harvard Law School graduate, but I don't know of one honest person who would read your words "although we don't have any actual evidence of it, he is reportedly a graduate of Harvard Law School," and not conclude that you're not convinced of his educational credentials. The same with this statement: "He is supposed to be an American citizen, although he refuses to do the one simple thing that would lay the discussion to rest..."

He is supposed to be an American citizen? What are you implying by using the word "supposed?" You're implying that there is doubt--in your mind, in any event.

There is no doubt that Mr. Obama is a natural born American citizen, except with people who have been labeled "Birthers."

And Birthers are a fringe element of the GOP who are obsessed with Mr. Obama for reasons other than his birth certificate.

No you didn't actually say he wasn't a citizen and you didn't actually say he didn't graduate from Harvard Law, but the words you used imply that there is reason to doubt both facts.

There isn't any doubt. For you to equivocate is dishonest.

You and I know EXACTLY what you were implying.

Joe said...

SK: How many honest people do you know?

"You and I know EXACTLY what you were implying."

Oooo! You sly little old mind reader, you.

The word, "supposed" means: presumed to be true...to express a supposition...a hypothesis that is taken for granted...believed or reputed to be the case.

48,000 gallons!

I'm so impressed!

There are over 40,000 BARRELS of oil per day spewing forth.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Supposed, in the way you used it has this meaning:



2. (prenominal) believed to be true on slight grounds; highly doubtful

And:

2 a : held as an opinion : believed; also : mistakenly believed

Words have meanings and consequences.

The amount of oil being addressed is not what you posted on. You kept insisting that Mr. Obama did NOTHING.

You. Are. Wrong.

Joe said...

SK: As I have said in this and previous posts, I don't know whether President BO is a citizen or not...I was not present at his birth.

I DO know he has never shown us his ORIGINAL birth certificate, only Hawaii's Certification of Live Birth. Close, but no cigar.

I am not, and never have been a "birther," I just wonder why he will not produce the original birth certificate.

Easy.

The only way "supposed" can have the meaning you ascribe to it is if the inflection is placed on the second sylable in such a way as to communicate doubt or cynicism.

Since you cannot hear my tone on my post, you have no choice but to accept that I meant it like I defined it.

If you choose to think otherwise, the problem is with you, not me.

My Friday (June 11) post deals with what would have been the presidential things to have done if he had known how to do something positive with regard to the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Shaw Kenawe said...

"I don't know whether President BO is a citizen or not...I was not present at his birth."--Joe

Well, I wasn't present at your birth, so how can I be sure that YOU are a citizen.

You probably weren't present at Ronald Reagan's, George HW and George W Bush's, and Sarah Palin's births either. So you don't know whether or not they're citizens either, do you.

I have not seen your birth certificate, so you're probably NOT a citizen. (This is your logic, not mine.) I may have to blog about how you question Mr. Obama's citizenship, while never having shown proof of yours. Oh, my!


The claims about Mr. Obama's birth are promoted by a number of fringe theorists and political opponents who filed lawsuits that sought to disqualify Obama from standing or being confirmed as President, or to obtain additional proof that he is qualified. Three were filed with and dismissed by the Supreme Court of the United States.

None of the cases have prevailed in lower courts. NOT ONE. Why do you suppose that is? Could it be LACK OF MERIT?

The Obama campaign released a 2007 certified copy of his birth certificate (in this instance referred to as a "Certification of Live Birth") that states Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961.

Frequent arguments of those questioning Obama's eligibility are that he has not released a photocopy of his "original" birth certificate, and that the use of the term "certification of live birth" on the document means it is not equivalent to one's "birth certificate".

These arguments have been debunked numerous times by media investigations, every judicial forum that has addressed the matter, and Hawaiian government officials, a consensus of whom have concluded that the certificate released by the Obama campaign is indeed his official birth certificate.


What exactly is there about those bolded statements that you don't understand, or more accurately WANT to understand, since the evidence is so overwhelming and your intransigency a sympton of mere political blindless and hatred.

Good luck with that, Joe, and have a nice day.

Joe said...

SK: See...you have proven that you don't care a whit about being honest.

"I have not seen your birth certificate, so you're probably NOT a citizen. (This is your logic, not mine.)"

I said that I don't know whether he is a citizen. I don't know whether you are either.

That does not mean that I think he isn't or that you aren't. It just means what I said: I don't know.

I have no idea who you are, where you're from (though I would guess the Northeast or Chicago), how you got to be so contrary, whether you are from a broken home, or whether you come from Pluto.

I just don't know.

Why is that so hard for your obviously superior brain to understand?

Shaw Kenawe said...

Joe, my dear, dear man.

You are equivocating. Again.

You say you don't know whether Mr. Obama is a citizen or not.

You say this while the state of Hawaii and every single official who has more knowledge and authority than you will ever be privy to concerning the criteria on the validity of Mr. Obaman's birth has said he is without any question, doubt, or exception a US citizen and was born in the state of Hawaii.

Period. End of discussion.


And yet you continue to say "you don't know."

Yes. You. Do. Know. The state of Hawaii has attested to this in the most official way and has left absolutely no doubt on the question.

You refuse to believe facts.

No one can help you in this.

You are determined, without any evidence, to believe something that is false.

Let's leave it at that.

Susannah said...

Yadda, yadda, yadda...talk, talk, talk...schmooze, slurp, curse, pound his chest, then talk some more. *snore* Nobody cares about your HLS education (who bought that for you, anyway?) or your silver tongued orations anymore, Barry. We need a president who's actually willing to DO something...

Who cares how smart, intellectual, academically accomplished this dolt is, or upon which continent he was truly born (which seems a moot point at this juncture), when he can't tell his arse from a hole in the ocean floor??

The Prince is so very, sadly lost in this crisis. Even his HLS facade doesn't give him enough BS cred to pawn this off on somebody else (which he is so desperate to do, all while pretending to be a hard a$$ to impress...somebody...?).

As he said, 'the buck stops' at his desk; it's just too bad there's a hollow shell of a 'leader' sitting behind it.

Joe said...

SK: "every single official who has more knowledge and authority than you will ever be privy to concerning the criteria on the validity of Mr. Obaman's birth has said he is without any question, doubt, or exception a US citizen..."

WOW!! You know a lot of very high ups! I'm sorry, I didn't realize that. I thought I was the only one stuck in hyperbole.

We all know that ALL high-ups who were not n the Bush administration are nothing but honest...always. Of course they are...I should have realized it. How can I ever make it up to you?

I have never believed he is not a citizen, and I do not believe it now. I just don't have any a priori knowledge of it. And I have never seen an original birth certificate, so I still don't know.

I hope you get over your insupressible anger some day. It will kill you. Your heart can only take so much adrenalin.

Anyway, I'm sure glad you have the power to say when a discussion is over and when it's not.

Such power!

Funny...after you ended the discussion you kept discussing!

That's wierd.

He's still the least competent, most sophomoric president we've ever had...even if Kenya IS his homeland (as stated by Michelle).

Has he declared the Gulf coast a National Disaster yet?

I mean, he either has or he hasn't...which is it?