tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post8011209630552096199..comments2023-10-10T05:30:54.239-04:00Comments on Jo-Joe Politico: WHENCE RIGHTS?Joehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-75406929428596432432008-10-21T12:50:00.000-04:002008-10-21T12:50:00.000-04:00mainstreamavi aki bukaky: So what if I don't addre...mainstreamavi aki bukaky: So what if I don't address any of your central questions? Where is it written that I have to answer to you?<BR/><BR/>I have news for you: THIS IS NOT A FREE SPEECH ZONE!<BR/><BR/>On this blog I RULE!<BR/><BR/>On your blog, you rule.<BR/><BR/>But not on this one.<BR/><BR/>If your tone gets nasty (and I'll be the sole judge [Ooo, the J word] of what is nasty), I will simply delete your comment.<BR/><BR/>You may not like it, but that's the way it is.<BR/><BR/>You are not required to like it, but that's the way it is.<BR/><BR/>I do not seek your endorsement or to make you happy.<BR/><BR/>I write this blog to espouse MY opinions.<BR/><BR/>Your opinions are welcome, but if your tone is nasty, or if you resort to name calling, or if you use language that I, and I alone, think untoward, I will delete your comment.<BR/><BR/>You can then go and complain to all of your buddies, most of whom, I notice, don't understand why certain language is not fit for civilized people, as I'm sure you don't, to your heart's content.<BR/><BR/>I don't care.<BR/><BR/>Get it?<BR/><BR/>See, how you see fit to say something on this blog doesn't count.<BR/><BR/>Only what I see fit to let on it counts.<BR/><BR/>Am I clear?<BR/><BR/>On this blog (and only on this blog) I am the big boss, the last word, in charge, the royal potentate.<BR/><BR/>Wanna dialog, we can do that, but don't go telling me how I can or cannot address what I want or don't want to address.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-69196897300600134402008-10-21T11:56:00.000-04:002008-10-21T11:56:00.000-04:00and you did not address my central questions. I di...and you did not address my central questions. I didn't say anything about multiple Gods.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-63572961619268970262008-10-21T11:55:00.000-04:002008-10-21T11:55:00.000-04:00I think, Joe, I'll say whatever I want to, in what...I think, Joe, I'll say whatever I want to, in whatever way I see fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-85184614267426157322008-10-21T06:40:00.000-04:002008-10-21T06:40:00.000-04:00mainstreamavi aki bukaky: No, I don't agree, which...mainstreamavi aki bukaky: No, I don't agree, which I think you already knew.<BR/><BR/>The creator Thomas Jefferson wrote of in the DOI would have been understood to have been the Creator for whom the Pilgrims of the Mayflower and those who followed them trusted in.<BR/><BR/>There are not many gods, no matter what you may or may not believe. There is only one.<BR/><BR/>He is not capricious, He is not inconsistant and He is not unknowable.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, let me assure you (if you need my assurance) that in this country the founders made sure that you could believe whatever you want to believe without interference from the federal government.<BR/><BR/>In the First Amendment they made sure that our lawmakers could not make any law that abridged your right to embrace whatever religion you want and that you can exercise it freely.<BR/><BR/>No real Christian would try to condemn you to hell or anyplace else, for it is not in our power to do so.<BR/><BR/>If you choose to go to hell, you may certainly do so without my help.<BR/><BR/>God would not "send" you there, for He is not willing that anyone should perish.<BR/><BR/>But He won't stop you, if that's what you want to do.<BR/><BR/>BTW: Having seen your comment in the context of comments on Xavier Onassis' blog, I understand why you are here, and trust that you will exercise respect and decorum in your visits.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-39245773515914222692008-10-20T23:40:00.000-04:002008-10-20T23:40:00.000-04:00Joe, Outstanding post. I also enjoyed the commen...Joe, Outstanding post. I also enjoyed the comments. I always thought this nation was founded on a Judeo-Christian foundation. Not Buddism, Islam, Shintoism, or any other religion. We did and do however tolerate all religions. However as America progressed we forgot where our God was and have blasted him out of the public's eye, in fact we can't even mention him in our public schools or place of employment. Little wonder he has begun to turn his back on us, as a nation.....I ramble stay well....Taplinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00161842191574184492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-89275153256355326812008-10-20T21:19:00.000-04:002008-10-20T21:19:00.000-04:00Your post was very well written and highly readabl...Your post was very well written and highly readable. Great job.Pasadena Closet Conservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05837317472523209555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-54114802572140289992008-10-20T20:42:00.000-04:002008-10-20T20:42:00.000-04:00Now, Joe Politico, this question is addressed to ...Now, Joe Politico, this question is addressed to you, my man.<BR/><BR/>If our rights ultimately derived from God (no mention of Christ btw) whose God is giving away these rights?<BR/><BR/>If all men are created equal, and have certain inalienable rights, I don't see any basis for distinguishing between faiths. A muslim is equal to a Christian, according to our founding documents, and our Founding Fathers.<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't you agree?<BR/><BR/>After all, what distinguishes Christians is that they believe that Christ was the only Son of God and died for our sins, and that if you do not beleive that you will go to hell. It's that simple, and that black and white.<BR/><BR/>And they believe this belief is not held in the back of their minds hidden from everybody, they believe that you must publicly profess your faith for it to be meaningful. <BR/><BR/>But any mention of Christ is conspicuously absent from any of our founding documents.<BR/><BR/>So, when Barack Obama says that he is willing to negotiate with our enemies, he is saying, <BR/><BR/>"We are all subject to the judgment of God. We must do our best to work together because he is not on one side or the other, he is Lord over all."<BR/><BR/>He is not saying God is on our side, he is saying we are all subject to God's will.<BR/><BR/>Something very consistent with our founding documents, wouldn't you say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-25024280521583270742008-10-20T16:39:00.000-04:002008-10-20T16:39:00.000-04:00And many who hate America today are still involved...And many who hate America today are still involved in slavery. Slavery is still legal in some 3rd world countries. Following the logic of Jefferson's words we eventually outgrew slavery but those who reject Jefferson's ideals still allow slavery. It takes a while for an ideal or principle to permeate society and fully blossom. The seeds of thought that eventually freed the slaves were planted by a slave-owner which is an intriguing irony.shoprathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05265612188236394307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-11868947251412907242008-10-20T15:19:00.000-04:002008-10-20T15:19:00.000-04:00frassypoo: Thank you for your visit. During my h...frassypoo: Thank you for your visit. During my high school years I had many forays into south Georgia: Valdosta; Cairo; Savanah; etc.<BR/><BR/>Glad you're involved in the process!Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-37462752089775393422008-10-20T14:04:00.000-04:002008-10-20T14:04:00.000-04:00Hi JoeWonderful,wonderful post.People forget that ...Hi Joe<BR/>Wonderful,wonderful post.<BR/>People forget that God is almighty.<BR/><BR/>This is my first presid.elections so am watching very closely!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by.I live in the south of GA-few hrs away from Warner RobbinsFrasypoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06876036406543436837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-88877515957714389352008-10-20T09:03:00.000-04:002008-10-20T09:03:00.000-04:00nighmare: "...invisible sky friend..." I don't hav...nighmare: "...invisible sky friend..." I don't have one of those, perhaps you could tell me about it.<BR/><BR/>I would never force my religion down your throat.<BR/><BR/>The very idea of being in your throat is pretty unappitizing.<BR/><BR/>After He "assembled ole Adam and Eve, he breathed into them "the breath of Life."<BR/><BR/>That's pretty remarkable.<BR/><BR/>Life is one of the rights confered on man by the Creator.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-7304021406216910682008-10-20T08:45:00.000-04:002008-10-20T08:45:00.000-04:00"the same men who wrote that all men are created e..."the same men who wrote that all men are created equal owned slaves"<BR/><BR/>This mind set was common place all over the world at this time and for 1000's of years prior to our new and burgeoning country. I like to think they DID know that all men were created equally and if they [enslaved people] would have the opportunity and wherewithal to take the christen white men as slaves that they would take it, hence making them as equal.<BR/><BR/>Course I could be talking outta my hind end.<BR/><BR/>I do think that you're giving your invisible sky friend a little too much credit for "creating" man. Last I checked "god" assembled man of the dust of the earth...much like one would "assemble" a good biscuit recipe, only instead of dust and dirt I would suggest flour. And then when it is done baking, some butter or maybe honey and jam....agian, suggestions, I don't want to force my religious cooking beliefs on anyone! :-)Nightmarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07359025802495397469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-70894390364953882472008-10-20T06:21:00.000-04:002008-10-20T06:21:00.000-04:00satyavati devi dasi: It is true that Thomas Jeffe...satyavati devi dasi: It is true that Thomas Jefferson, who penned the Declaration of Independence, owned slaves.<BR/><BR/>It is also true that he was probably NOT thinking about the slaves when he wrote the DOI.<BR/><BR/>Just as the inspired writers of Scripture did not understand everything they wrote, so TJ might not have known where his writings would lead.<BR/><BR/>With or without his personal knowledge, he wrote a mighty truth: Mankind is created and his Creator has endowed him with certain rights.<BR/><BR/>That he owned slaves, or that Anericans took way too many years to emancipate slaves and women does not change the truth.<BR/><BR/>We are created with rights endowed to us by our Creator, including, but not restricted to, life, liberty and the persuit of happiness.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-36658995161712395832008-10-20T05:33:00.000-04:002008-10-20T05:33:00.000-04:00We just had an enormous discussion on what constit...We just had an enormous discussion on what constitutes a right and whether health care is one of them over at Patrick's.<BR/><BR/>So in the interest of brevity, rather than go into all of it again I'll just point you in that direction.<BR/><BR/>But I would point out that the same men who wrote that all men are created equal owned slaves, which would say to me that they were referring to white Christian men, and not those of other races or religions. <BR/><BR/>And certainly not women.<BR/><BR/>I'm just pointing that out for the sake of clarity, because I think it's a very important point that gets missed a lot. It doesn't invalidate the DOI; it just gives a bit of an insight into its writers.<BR/><BR/>I'm no feminist. Just reading what they wrote.Satyavati devi dasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13980257934310271457noreply@blogger.com