tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post7176748496697489463..comments2023-10-10T05:30:54.239-04:00Comments on Jo-Joe Politico: Clever with WordsJoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-11378187922657044952013-11-08T09:41:23.118-05:002013-11-08T09:41:23.118-05:00X.O. and Ducky have only assertions of assertions,...X.O. and Ducky have only assertions of assertions, with no evidence. <br /><br />Then they ignore the evidence staring the in their faces.<br /><br />""The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men <i>who suppress the truth by their wickedness</i>, since what may be know about God is plain to them."Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-56512540423374896702013-11-08T00:41:46.605-05:002013-11-08T00:41:46.605-05:00Joe - "XO: "DNA analysis and genome mapp...Joe - "XO: "DNA analysis and genome mapping put a lie to that fairy tale."<br /><br />Actually, the opposite is true."<br /><br />Please tell me you aren't trying to make the case that the genetic Mitochondrial Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve) in ANY WAY gives any credence to your Biblical fairy tales. Because you would be embarrassing yourself. You don't want to go there.<br /><br />"Have you really never wondered why so many fossils of sea creatures are found in the middle of continents? Like in Nebraska, South Dakota, Tennessee and other places, not to mention in hundreds of place in Africa, South America and even Antarctica?<br /><br />No, I suppose not."<br /><br />Once again you demonstrate your ignorance.<br /><br />Apparently you never learned about plate tectonics, continental drift, glaciation and the rise and fall of oceans and land masses.<br /><br />These things occurred over hundreds of millions of years, not "40 days and 40 nights" while some dude rode out the "storm" in a ship designed by a supernatural being which contained the entire the entire genetic library of Planet Earth. <br /><br />"You've never read the historian, Josephus, have you?"<br /><br />Of course I have. One historian, born after your "Jesus" was long dead, makes 2 passing references to something which may or may not have ever occurred.<br /><br />But the Romans, who ruled the area and kept meticulous legal and historical records make no reference, not one, ever, to what your Bible contends was the most important historical event of the last 2000 years!<br /><br />I mean, the arrest, trial, torment and crucifixion of a notorious Jewish terrorist should have been reason enough to document the events for posterity.<br /><br />But the stories of him healing the sick, raising the dead, walking on water, turning water to wine, feeding multitudes with a handful of bread and fish, being the result of a virgin birth and ultimately rising from the dead???<br /><br />One would think that these things would have had such an incredible effect on people that they would have been widely reported and documented!<br /><br />But, no. Not one word, anywhere. Nada. Zip. Zilch.<br /><br />No contemporary historical references whatsoever.<br /><br />It's as though...wait for it...he never existed at all!<br /><br />Believe what you like. Take it on faith (because that is all you have). But stop trying to pass laws forcing rational people to accept your fantasies as fact.<br /><br />Xavier Onassishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345787343828318445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-89395793016058062012013-11-07T23:34:26.739-05:002013-11-07T23:34:26.739-05:00XO: "DNA analysis and genome mapping put a li...XO: "DNA analysis and genome mapping put a lie to that fairy tale."<br /><br />Actually, the opposite is true.<br /><br />"Noah and the Ark and the flooding of the entire planet???"<br /><br />Have you really never wondered why so many fossils of sea creatures are found in the middle of continents? Like in Nebraska, South Dakota, Tennessee and other places, not to mention in hundreds of place in Africa, South America and even Antarctica?<br /><br />No, I suppose not.<br /><br />"Yet there is absolutely no mention whatsoever of the trial, torment and crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the most important and trans-formative figure of the last 2000+ years."<br /><br />You've never read the historian, Josephus, have you?<br /><br />Still, I will give you that the faith of the believer does not rest upon the shovel of the archaeologist.<br /><br />Ducky: Oh Good! Quote from proven falsified documents. That makes your case stronger! Just like the global warming of three years ago.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-27966697241041910212013-11-07T23:15:05.549-05:002013-11-07T23:15:05.549-05:00Sorry, Joe ... from Wiki. he matter doesn't s...Sorry, Joe ... from Wiki. he matter doesn't seem to be going your way.<br /><br />"In 1995, Kenyon's result was corroborated by radiocarbon tests which dated test samples taken from the site to 1562 BC (plus/minus 38 years) with a certainty of 95%.[6] The specific charcoal sample Wood referenced in his proposition was found to be in error and corrected to 1590 or 1527 +/- 110 BC"Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-8710377776183022072013-11-07T21:48:59.290-05:002013-11-07T21:48:59.290-05:00Joe & G.E.C. - SERIOUSLY?? You want to pursue...Joe & G.E.C. - SERIOUSLY?? You want to pursue the history argument?<br /><br />That is your absolute weakest link! Why would you even go there???<br /><br />The biggest stars of the Bible are Adam & Eve, Noah, Moses and Jesus.<br /><br />Adam & Eve we can dismiss out of hand. Total and complete nonsense.<br /><br />DNA analysis and genome mapping put a lie to that fairy tale.<br /><br />Noah and the Ark and the flooding of the entire planet???<br /><br />Absolute nonsense! There is no geological evidence in the world wide sediment layers of the flood itself, nor is there any genetic evidence of a mass extinction of humans and animals that occurred anytime since humans have existed.<br /><br />Moses. A Jewish baby found floating in a reed basket down one of the most famous rivers in the world, adopted and raised by the royal family of the most powerful empire in the world, who betrayed his adoptive family, called down a series of inexplicable supernatural plagues, freed the Jewish slaves, led the Egyptian Army of the Pharaoh on a wild chase that resulted in their complete destruction when a sea was first miraculously parted and then collapsed to drown and destroy them, and there is ABSOLUTELY NO, NOT ONE SINGLE MENTION, of ANY of these events in ANY Egyptian records, hieroglyphs or monuments.<br /><br />Not. One.<br /><br />Does that not strike you as strange?<br /><br />One would think some Egyptian somewhere would put ink to papyrus to say "Oh, and this happened..."<br /><br />Jesus.<br /><br />The Romans were METICULOUS record keepers! They documented every minutia of Roman government proceedings.<br /><br />Yet there is absolutely no mention whatsoever of the trial, torment and crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the most important and trans-formative figure of the last 2000+ years.<br /><br />Nothing!<br /><br />There is no historic, genetic or geologic evidence that anything in the Bible ever actually happened!<br /><br />None! That's why you have to accept it all as a matter of faith!<br /><br />Which you are perfectly free to do thanks to our Constitution.<br /><br />What you are NOT free to do is pass laws shoving that nonsense down the throats of rational human beings with more than 32 brain cells who point at you and laugh.Xavier Onassishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345787343828318445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-75942630057198187192013-11-07T15:45:00.511-05:002013-11-07T15:45:00.511-05:00Ducky: Dame Kathleen Kenyon, a famous archaeologis...Ducky: Dame Kathleen Kenyon, a famous archaeologist excavated Jericho. She concluded Jericho had been destroyed in about 1550 BC, at least 150 years before Joshua. And so the matter rested until recently. Then, in the March-April 1990 issue of the Biblical Archaeology Review, we find that Jericho really was destroyed during Joshua’s life time.<br /><br />Toss the Jericho argument aside. You'll have to find some other example.<br /><br />What about Moses as the author of the Pentateuch? Everybody knew there was no such thing as writing when he was alive. Believers were scoffed at for thinking so. Then archaeologists discovered writing that predated Moses. Surprise!Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-84157864972687931062013-11-07T13:48:16.833-05:002013-11-07T13:48:16.833-05:00Ducky, you are so very, very ignorant about anythi...Ducky, you are so very, very ignorant about anything to do with the Bible and the Christian faith. And you demonstrate your foolishness every time you attempt to speak about them.<br /><br />No historic record denies either the Exodus story or anything about Jericho.<br /><br />The Bible IS historic evidence. While nothing archaeological has been discovered to confirm some things in the BIble, nothing has been found to contradict it.<br /><br />Speculations about things don't count. Arguing from lack of evidence doesn't count.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-19864162891221646372013-11-07T13:26:12.627-05:002013-11-07T13:26:12.627-05:00What problem is that, Glenn, knowing that the hist...What problem is that, Glenn, knowing that the historic record denies the Exodus myth and completely refutes the Jericho myth?<br /><br />In other words, not blindly accepting so called revealed truth and trying to keep an open mind.<br /><br />You may have chosen to run with the American Taliban but try to understand those who choose not to.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-72621310453481764822013-11-07T11:22:52.310-05:002013-11-07T11:22:52.310-05:00Dave,
"most liberals"
Every liberal I&...Dave, <br />"most liberals"<br /><br />Every liberal I've ever met and every liberal I've ever read about has the problem. I've yet to meet a liberal who doesn't have that problem.<br /><br />Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-29179939888656979062013-11-07T08:17:48.067-05:002013-11-07T08:17:48.067-05:00XO: The problem is, you adopt your own philosophy ...XO: The problem is, you adopt your own philosophy and condemn and ridicule anyone who disagrees with you while not allowing them the same right to ridicule and condemn you. <br /><br />You retain the "right" to be as nasty as you want to be toward others and deny them the same toward you.<br /><br />To the liberal mind, that seems intellectually fair.<br /><br />It is hypocritical, at best. Liberty only applies to you. Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-18690118778913691532013-11-07T01:30:06.687-05:002013-11-07T01:30:06.687-05:00Glenn, most liberals... That sounds pretty sweepin...Glenn, most liberals... That sounds pretty sweeping... I'm sure you do not like being lumped into a group and then being mocked...Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777087329254991970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-23659708604126337102013-11-07T00:04:15.502-05:002013-11-07T00:04:15.502-05:00Dave Miller - G.E.C. thinks that some supernatural...Dave Miller - G.E.C. thinks that some supernatural "God", as defined by a bunch of illiterate, Bronze Age, goat herders, created and defined "marriage" for us ignorant, secular humans for all eternity and that we puny, modern humans don't have the power or authority to create and define our own institutions.Xavier Onassishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345787343828318445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-81740403488902725662013-11-06T19:35:35.479-05:002013-11-06T19:35:35.479-05:00Dave,
My point about their being illiterate was i...Dave, <br />My point about their being illiterate was in the manner in which they are illiterate. Sort of selective capability.<br /><br />And what sweeping generalization might you be referring to?Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-2923040514319522732013-11-06T19:24:10.180-05:002013-11-06T19:24:10.180-05:00Glenn, like Joes example of clever words, you miss...Glenn, like Joes example of clever words, you missed what I was saying...<br /><br />I did not say anyone, or someone is unintelligent if they lack a formal education... <br /><br />I said their statistical higher education level is proof of an ability to read and write, the main understanding of being literate for years...<br /><br />You made a sweeping generalization that I do not think you can factually support. <br /><br />Why?Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777087329254991970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-20073005954013148402013-11-06T18:38:53.309-05:002013-11-06T18:38:53.309-05:00Dave,
Higher level of schooling does't mean m...Dave, <br />Higher level of schooling does't mean more intelligent - one can go through 4 or 6 years of college and still be a brainwashed liberal. Statistics just show that the longer you stay in school the more brainwashed you get and the more you decided that you are entitled to everything from the government.<br /><br />Liberals are illiterate in that they don't seem to understand what they read. Things like the Constitution, the Bible, etc - you know, laws and morals that they don't like so if they are literate, then they intentionally misread so as to force their secular, immoral, socialist agenda on the rest of society.<br /><br />WIth some words which define an institution, like "marriage," simply changing the definition to something that suits one's perversion doesn't really change it. You can say "circle" really means a square and yet it will never be a square not matter how many laws you make to the contrary.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-35706717782067766802013-11-06T16:54:30.471-05:002013-11-06T16:54:30.471-05:00Yes Dave really? Most liberals are illiterate! Y...Yes Dave really? Most liberals are illiterate! You should know that!<br /><br /><br />By the way, did you get lost on your way here?Laughing at Stupid Things Liberals Sayhttps://www.facebook.com/LaughingAtLiberalsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-65576639970995959132013-11-06T14:34:28.068-05:002013-11-06T14:34:28.068-05:00Glenn, really? Most liberals are illiterate? Mea...Glenn, really? Most liberals are illiterate? Meaning they have trouble reading and writing?<br /><br />Or are you interpreting that word to mean that they do not agree with you?<br /><br />Statistical evidence shows that the left tends to have a higher level of schooling than the right. Whether they can interpret data, or form conclusions can rightly be called into question, just like it can with people on the right.<br /><br />It would be illogical however, to define the left as illiterate.<br /><br />Glenn, isn't the definition of every word made up by man, and as such, subject to change?Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777087329254991970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-74227145913274919782013-11-06T14:16:51.982-05:002013-11-06T14:16:51.982-05:00@GEC --- Although most liberals are governed by th...@GEC --- Although most liberals are governed by the fairy tale called evolution<br /><br />-----<br />Q.E.D.<br /><br />Glenn, stop digging!Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-4700238291241415912013-11-06T12:46:37.954-05:002013-11-06T12:46:37.954-05:00It is progress to recognize that we are NOT a bunc...<i> It is progress to recognize that we are NOT a bunch of illiterate, bronze age, goat herders cowering in fear of the unknown and being governed by fairy tales. </i><br /><br />Gee, I don't know anyone how fits that description. Although most liberals are governed by the fairy tale called evolution, and most liberals seem to be illiterate, and just like children they make up their own definitions for words.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-72659593997951010392013-11-06T12:28:55.540-05:002013-11-06T12:28:55.540-05:00Joe, the cleverness of words is interesting.
Like...Joe, the cleverness of words is interesting.<br /><br />Like when the Toronto mayor said he does not use cocaine when a video surfaced of him smoking it.<br /><br />Technically he was correct... simply smoking every once in a while is not using... it is trying, or smoking, or whatever, every once in a while.<br /><br />It is stuff that lawyers seize on. <br /><br />Think President Clinton... was he lying when he said he did not have sex with Monica? Not at all, at least in my view. Was he sexual with her? Yes he was. Inappropriate? Of course. But did he have sex, as most people would understand it, with no qualifiers? Nope.<br /><br />And Ducky and XO, yes it was a bad night for Tea Party folks... <br /><br />I've been hearing for the last several months that all the GOP needs to do is get better messengers, that somehow people just aren't hearing correctly what they are saying.<br /><br />What happens if people are hearing the message, which is much like Glenn's message, and they, including their own party are choosing to reject it?<br /><br />Is the GOP able to consider that?Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777087329254991970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-36799384325517350312013-11-06T09:51:57.538-05:002013-11-06T09:51:57.538-05:00G.E.C. - It is progress to recognize that we are N...G.E.C. - It is progress to recognize that we are NOT a bunch of illiterate, bronze age, goat herders cowering in fear of the unknown and being governed by fairy tales.Xavier Onassishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345787343828318445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-41913891820548822942013-11-06T09:51:32.801-05:002013-11-06T09:51:32.801-05:00Christie is another Romney, except with a biger, a...Christie is another Romney, except with a biger, and nastier, mouth. His kind of crap no longer fools the voting base.<br />I think Clinton, if she decides to run, she would beat him badly.Geauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04647271598404540560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-83920395325745755422013-11-06T09:05:55.751-05:002013-11-06T09:05:55.751-05:00So it is "progress" to vote corruptive a...So it is "progress" to vote corruptive and perverse behavior for society?!?!<br /><br />You people are demented.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-48621809190640779032013-11-06T08:38:41.775-05:002013-11-06T08:38:41.775-05:00Obama is a lair and a hypocrite. Just like Hillary...Obama is a lair and a hypocrite. Just like Hillary is.<br /><br />Just like many on the far Left are, that is why they can identify with him.<br />Do you have trouble making decisions?<br /><br />obama is a lying scumbag. period.<br /><br />No other qualifiers need be addedTemplarKormachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01689809879980231526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-76900496001194814152013-11-06T07:27:18.956-05:002013-11-06T07:27:18.956-05:00Ducky - Yeah, turns out forced, mandatory, vaginal...Ducky - Yeah, turns out forced, mandatory, vaginal ultrasounds really aren't that popular with female voters.<br /><br />Every day is a tough day for Glenn.Xavier Onassishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345787343828318445noreply@blogger.com