tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post6762704156431847839..comments2023-10-10T05:30:54.239-04:00Comments on Jo-Joe Politico: THE CLIMATE SHE IS A-CHANGIN’Joehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-38076223967256159382010-03-17T21:54:18.643-04:002010-03-17T21:54:18.643-04:00"I'm saying "discussion" on thi...<i>"I'm saying "discussion" on this topic is pointless, because the over-whelming science on the topic tilts in one partciular direction. Because of that, you simply claim it's fabricated."</i> (Tom)<br /><br /><br />That would be psuedo-science at this point, given that virtually ALL the AGW "research" behind the UN's reports came from the CRU at East Anglia University and the email dump from that institution showed "scientists" colluding to keep those who couldn't duplicate their results weren't peer reviewed, proved that they simply changed, "corrected" numbers that didn't fir their expected results and sold their pseudo-research to the highest bidder.<br /><br /><b>The idea that there are "no credible skeptics" is beyiond stupid, given that the "father of Climatology" (Dr. Reid Bryson) himself has said, <i>"there is no question that the earth has been warming. It is coming out of the "Little Ice Age, however, there is no credible evidence that it is due to mankind and carbon dioxide.</i></b><br /><br /><b><i>"We've been coming out of a Little Ice Age for 300 years. We have not been making very much carbon dioxide for 300 years. It's been warming up for a long time..."</i></b><br /><br />Fact is the environment could use vastly MORE carbon dioxide! In carbon dioxide rich environs, plants grow enormously and produce much more oxygen.<br /><br />The small sea level rise wouldn't be much of a problem at all. In fact, Since 1850, global temperatures have increased almost 1 degree Celsius. Sea level has risen about seven inches, though the connection is unclear. So far, global warming has been a change, not a calamity.<br /><br />The fact is the answers to dealing with ANY human problem is more individualism, more personal liberty and responsibility...people solve problems NOT governments.<br /><br />No command economy or government-run system has ever yielded even mediocre results, while America's system of economic freedom has been the wonder of the world.<br /><br />We NEED to look to free market answers.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-90193012397093133782010-03-16T07:40:41.056-04:002010-03-16T07:40:41.056-04:00Tom: Are you related to Dan? You two vomit the sa...Tom: Are you related to Dan? You two vomit the same thing in every comment.<br /><br />I happen to WANT a clean environment. I happen to like clean air and clean surroundings.<br /><br />When I taught backpacking to kids, I always encouraged them to leave the camp site as clean as they found it or cleaner.<br /><br />That meant they had to burn and bury the bones of the critters we shot with our Uzis.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-7759021831872951322010-03-16T01:14:25.737-04:002010-03-16T01:14:25.737-04:00I just think it's funny how the right comes do...I just think it's funny how the right comes down anti-environment. Being the party of land rights and gun ownership/hunting, it seems obvious the right would want a cleaner environment regardless of whether or not climate change exists. <br /><br />One of those instances where it's really easy to spot partisan hackery.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-65723153220430561662010-03-15T20:07:40.795-04:002010-03-15T20:07:40.795-04:00I'm saying "discussion" on this topi...I'm saying "discussion" on this topic is pointless, because the over-whelming science on the topic tilts in one partciular direction. Because of that, you simply claim it's fabricated.<br /><br />See what I mean? There is absolutely no use discussing the merits of the science with you because you think it's some sort of nefarious plot to take over the world. There is absolutely no way you could be convinced otherwise.<br /><br />I only care about the topic from the point of view of the politics. I've been curious why it's such a hot button issue for the rightw wingers. It's my opinion that it's because it's something a lot of Liberals are interested in... nothing more.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17564526640395324075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-65010468755369274992010-03-15T18:49:43.030-04:002010-03-15T18:49:43.030-04:00JMK: The economics of this issue are astonishing.
...JMK: The economics of this issue are astonishing.<br /><br />BetteJo: Indeed, there are certain things it makes sense to recycle. But just as with the weather, the issues are often "over-cooked." <br /><br />Tom: Pointless to argue the merits of the science? What kind of nonsense is that? Suppose "science" told us that microbes don't cause disease (They used to think that, you know)? Would it not matter about the science and whether or not it was true?<br /><br />"Right Wingers" did not assign the issue to you, you adopted it and were the first ones to assert this "Global Warming" foolishess.<br /><br />As soon as the "science" came out, your goons started hyping it for all it's worth, seeing both political and financial gain from it. Your self-ascribed guru, Algore, lectured about it, wrote about it and produced a "documentary" about it. Don't try to push that off on us.<br /><br />I promise that I never have, don't now and never will rail against something just because it is espoused by a liberal. I will, however, if it is wrong-headed, ill-conceived, un-scientific and just plain non-sensical, such as is the case with "Global Warming."<br /><br />The global warming issues has been shown to have been fabricated by CRU, by NASA and by NCDC. Only Japan has not been proven to have been involved because mankind does not have ready access to their "data."<br /><br />You were not even close!<br /><br />Why don't you try discussion instead of accusation? Do you know what discussion is? Are you capable of engaging in it? Do you care more about what is true or about what fits your ideology?Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-74776241104243566522010-03-15T11:36:50.252-04:002010-03-15T11:36:50.252-04:00One could argue the merits of the science, but tha...One could argue the merits of the science, but that's mostly pointless. No matter of actual evidence would mean antyhing to a someone so convinced it's all "made up".<br /><br />What I've always been curious about is why right wingers are so apoplectic about it in the first place? My theory is that because the idea of a man-made contribution to the very real rise in global tempseratures is a "liberal cause", it therefore becomes something to be "opposed" to by definition.<br /><br />In other words, because the particular type of ideology that Joe seems to identify with classifies anything that a "Liberal" might think is good policy, is bad by <em>definition</em>, it then becomes something to rail on reflexsively.<br /><br />Am I close?Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17564526640395324075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-24795961898255264542010-03-14T21:18:01.606-04:002010-03-14T21:18:01.606-04:00We ought to go back to worrying about things we ca...We ought to go back to worrying about things we can't recycle (plastic bottles) and good old fashioned pollution. Trash, etc. If all those global warming dopes would out their energies into developing more products that can be reused and recycled we'd be in a lot better place. Instead now we have to what, disprove that the weather isn't changing? It's been changing since the earth has existed and will continue to change, no matter what we mere humans do. We can try to pay attention to keeping it clean. We'll get farther with that.BetteJohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11650981249204116251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-58226357512320769782010-03-14T14:43:40.632-04:002010-03-14T14:43:40.632-04:00The sad thing is that Anthropogenic Global Warming...The sad thing is that Anthropogenic Global Warming is based on psuedo-science, bought and paid for by UN and government grants that DEMANDED a "disaster scenario" on which to build support for increased government control over the economy and the people.<br /><br />Ironically enough, those who did the science and found their conclusions at odds with the bought-and-paid-for stooges at places like East Anglia University's CRU were called "skeptics" and "deniers," and were charged with being "bought-and-paid-for by Big Oil," when in FACT, even the father of Climatology (Dr. Reid Bryson) has said, <i><b>"there is no question that the earth has been warming. It is coming out of the "Little Ice Age, however, there is no credible evidence that it is due to mankind and carbon dioxide.</b></i><br /><br /><i><b>"We've been coming out of a Little Ice Age for 300 years. We have not been making very much carbon dioxide for 300 years. It's been warming up for a long time,"</b></i><br /><br />Al Gore deliberately overstated the rise in sea levels from 2' to over 20' in his <i>Inconvenient Truth</i>...and now notes from the CRU in England show that the earth hasn't warmed over the last fifteen years! In fact, since 2000 the earth has actually cooled.<br /><br />Looks like this idiotic theory is falling apart just in time....we desperately NEED more factories, more mining and more gasoline refineries in America...not only to supply growing global energy demands but to put more Americans back to work!JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-17218858514900991662010-03-14T09:18:42.833-04:002010-03-14T09:18:42.833-04:00Best winter in the NW in 30 years. I might be abl...Best winter in the NW in 30 years. I might be able to make a case for global warming. LOL<br /><br />The religion of GW is tough to kick.ablurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13898910648557162135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-54933289241538669012010-03-13T21:08:17.715-05:002010-03-13T21:08:17.715-05:00Krystal: When one lies to oneself, one will lie to...Krystal: When one lies to oneself, one will lie to anyone. And they do.<br /><br />sue(small "s"): We've had record rains for March here in Southwest Florida. Very unusual.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-35579330143347136362010-03-13T19:45:44.275-05:002010-03-13T19:45:44.275-05:00Impossible to make a list up of lies when they can...Impossible to make a list up of lies when they can no longer tell the difference...Krystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256521369614598137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-83646104558597408672010-03-13T19:45:18.168-05:002010-03-13T19:45:18.168-05:00Joe - Nothing unusual about the weather here. It&...Joe - Nothing unusual about the weather here. It's been raining all day. Typical for early spring. And I ain't lying.suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08469207337699004766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-62906458054462671342010-03-13T19:45:12.370-05:002010-03-13T19:45:12.370-05:00Excellent post!
"...if you lie to me about o...Excellent post!<br /><br /><i>"...if you lie to me about one thing, then you are obligated to give me a list of the things you lie about and the things you tell the truth about so I can tell the difference. And you must not lie on your list unless your list is listed as one of the things you lie about."</i><br /><br />Problem is, they tell THEMSELVES the lies, they tell each other the lies, they tell the world the lies and eventually, they forget everything they've said is lies, thus the lies become THEIR truth.Krystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256521369614598137noreply@blogger.com