tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post5737960031269294770..comments2023-10-10T05:30:54.239-04:00Comments on Jo-Joe Politico: A LESSON YOU NEED TO LEARNJoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-10841430059839551212008-10-24T07:33:00.000-04:002008-10-24T07:33:00.000-04:00mark: Technically, if one takes the Constitution ...mark: Technically, if one takes the Constitution literally, the Supreme Court's job is to determine whether a law passed by congress or a ruling by a lower court are place a restriction not allowed or covered by the Constitution. <BR/><BR/>We have allowed them to expand their powers, sadly.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-72896545423609647522008-10-24T06:26:00.000-04:002008-10-24T06:26:00.000-04:00"Constitutionally, Congress has no right to rule o...<I>"Constitutionally, Congress has no right to rule on such an issue."</I><BR/><BR/>Perhaps that's why the Supreme Court feels a right to rule.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-39532390068573178782008-10-22T06:17:00.000-04:002008-10-22T06:17:00.000-04:00pcc: I doubt that a phone book could contain it......pcc: I doubt that a phone book could contain it...maybe the New York phone book.<BR/><BR/>mccainpalin: You got that right.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-65700639909528463482008-10-22T06:15:00.000-04:002008-10-22T06:15:00.000-04:00mainstreamavi aki bukaky: I'm not working my way t...mainstreamavi aki bukaky: I'm not working my way toward a secure eternity. The work has already been done for me.<BR/><BR/>I never have been concerned with whether God is on my side. My concern is that I stay on His side.<BR/><BR/>You are 100% correct that we are all subject to the judgement of the same God.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-33043396373251629942008-10-22T00:57:00.000-04:002008-10-22T00:57:00.000-04:00It's by the presence of God that we all exist.And ...It's by the presence of God that we all exist.<BR/><BR/>And we are all (American, Iranian, Iraqi, Cuban) subject to the judgment of the same God.<BR/><BR/>Ever think about the fact that God may not be on your side?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-45800300607671248452008-10-22T00:51:00.000-04:002008-10-22T00:51:00.000-04:00The left has to marginalize religion in society, s...The left has to marginalize religion in society, so they can shove there agenda down our throats. The left wing agenda can’t survive in the presence of God and they Know it.mccainpalinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054917253410869151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-7595267484339019692008-10-21T23:23:00.000-04:002008-10-21T23:23:00.000-04:00I'm glad you're working your way towards a secure ...I'm glad you're working your way towards a secure eternity, Joe. I'm trying to do the same thing, and it resembles a man trying to take his pants off over his head.<BR/><BR/>I do recognize, through all of the noise, that the founding fathers did not want to establish a Christian state. As far as that goes, the evidence is clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-55897050986445375492008-10-21T20:25:00.000-04:002008-10-21T20:25:00.000-04:00Thank you for this. It makes me crazy how so many...Thank you for this. It makes me crazy how so many people misinterpret this simple little amendment. Not complicated enough for them, I guess. Imagine if it had to be written today. It would be the size of the phone book.Pasadena Closet Conservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05837317472523209555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-35890484397551866472008-10-21T19:16:00.000-04:002008-10-21T19:16:00.000-04:00I'm actually quite likely to ask you at some futur...I'm actually quite likely to ask you at some future moment.<BR/><BR/>One of the things I believe in is when I'm doing research on religious topics is to go directly to members of different faiths. Too many people depend on third-party information, which is inevitably biased.<BR/><BR/>So I believe if you want to know what the Mormons believe, read the book of Mormon and talk to them when they show up at your door. Same for the Witnesses. And any other religious group you can think of.<BR/><BR/>So sure, at some future moment I'll probably ask you for a whole exposition.Satyavati devi dasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13980257934310271457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-55969967855084943902008-10-21T18:57:00.000-04:002008-10-21T18:57:00.000-04:00satyavati: There are some things I am closed mind...satyavati: There are some things I am closed minded about. I don't want to be struck by lightning, and I live in the lightning capital of the world. Even so, it is one of those things I just refuse to want to try, just because I've never done it before.<BR/><BR/>I am closed minded about what our country should be.<BR/><BR/>The people who formed it, and wrote its rule book, knew what they had in mind, and it was good.<BR/><BR/>IMHBCO (In My Humble But Correct Opinion), we need to return to the PRINCIPLES they laid out.<BR/><BR/>I am closed minded about Jesus. I believe that if you want to live a really fulfilled life and have a secure eternity you must confess Him as Lord, believe God raised Him from the dead and place your faith in, and only in, His finished work on the cross of Calvary.<BR/><BR/>Now, I do not require you to believe that. You can believe whatever you want and I'll not try to talk you out of it.<BR/><BR/>But never, never ask me about Jesus, unless you really want to know, 'cause I'll give you the whole nine yards!Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-3770951331479805812008-10-21T18:45:00.000-04:002008-10-21T18:45:00.000-04:00Frasypoo: WOW! A private Christian School in Ind...Frasypoo: WOW! A private Christian School in India! That's terriffic!Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-69124199940448876002008-10-21T18:44:00.000-04:002008-10-21T18:44:00.000-04:00tapline: Thanks for the visit. Come back often. ...tapline: Thanks for the visit. Come back often. I wonder if the irony of the egravings that surrounds them ever hits those black robed fellers and gals.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-61943122406733748152008-10-21T18:06:00.000-04:002008-10-21T18:06:00.000-04:00If the writers of the constituition could see into...If the writers of the constituition could see into 2008,they would have amended a few freedoms!We have come a long,long way from their vision...a vision of a pure,clean country.<BR/>I went to a private Christian school in India and there was only one Muslim girl who protested devotions in the morning.Frasypoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06876036406543436837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-65218074472078917452008-10-21T17:51:00.000-04:002008-10-21T17:51:00.000-04:00Joe, Great lesson. I am over70 years young and s...Joe, Great lesson. I am over70 years young and still marvel at this document. I do not marvel at the living document, as some of the black robed ones think while interpreting this great document,our Supreme Legal minds that have no master, even though his name is embedded throughout their halls and entrances...They have seen fit to remove him from every public place. I wonder how history will view this period???i ramble.....Great post.....stay wellTaplinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00161842191574184492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-60482841619389133872008-10-21T17:13:00.000-04:002008-10-21T17:13:00.000-04:00Then I have to congratulate you on having an extra...Then I have to congratulate you on having an extraordinarily farsighted and unusual family.<BR/><BR/>There have been huge protests on college classes over classes taught on the Koran. This happened right down the road from me. People were <I>freaking</I>.<BR/><BR/>Two years ago people were screaming to boycott Walmart on the grounds that the cashiers said 'Happy Holidays' versus 'Merry Christmas'. This was touted as 'eroding Christianity'. Never mind that the Jews, Muslims, pagans, and others celebrate holidays at this time.<BR/><BR/>I have myself been the target of religiously motivated discrimination.<BR/><BR/>There is a huge problem, especially in a post-9/11 United States, with religious (and other) discrimination. I commend you on your openmindedness, but realize that you are the exception, not the norm, and to give any leeway in this area would invite more problems.<BR/><BR/>Yes, people are too uptight. But that's part of the reason that we have to be so careful. Until we can educate the public (and a great deal of them don't want to be educated, I assure you) we aren't going to get past this. And so until then, we have to ensure that people are protected equally.Satyavati devi dasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13980257934310271457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-72032160546536212032008-10-21T16:38:00.000-04:002008-10-21T16:38:00.000-04:00Oh. And in spite of the fact that I had many Chris...Oh. And in spite of the fact that I had many Christian teachers in kindergarten, grade school, high school and college, they were not all Christians.<BR/><BR/>Not once did my parents (unpracticing Christians at the time) evidence any concern, but celebrated all I was learning.<BR/><BR/>I liked that.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-47740185583004540952008-10-21T16:35:00.000-04:002008-10-21T16:35:00.000-04:00Satyavati devi dasi: Congratulations! I now know ...Satyavati devi dasi: Congratulations! I now know more about "establishment" than I ever wondered!<BR/><BR/>Look. I understand your concern. But surely a woman as bright as you can understand that we have ALL become just a little too uptight about other people's religions and beliefs.<BR/><BR/>My father was in the Air Force, and I have been educated all over the world: Florida; Brazil; Puerto Rico; Texas; Oklahoma; Washington State; France; Georgia Massachusetts and Florida (again).<BR/><BR/>I am 66 years old, with university degrees in psychology and sociology (B.S. degrees, which I think is an appropriate nomenclature for them), as well as seminary training from New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary. I have several phDs from the School of Hard Knocks to top it all off.<BR/><BR/>I've had friends who were Roman Catholic, Muslim (hope Homeland Security doesn't find out about that one...don't tell anybody), Mormon, Hare Krishna (did I spell that right?), and many other persuasions. <BR/><BR/>None of them has hurt me one bit. Not even a little bit.<BR/><BR/>Unless, of course, my becoming a radical right-wing politico is the result of those experiences.<BR/><BR/>I believe with all my being that in this country we should be honoring and celebrating our various faiths, even in public.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, one might think you didn't believe what you say you believe...or are ashamed of it.<BR/><BR/>If that were the case, why would one hold to that belief?<BR/><BR/>I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is to me the power of salvation.<BR/><BR/>I read that somewhere.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-23439858117489829532008-10-21T15:47:00.000-04:002008-10-21T15:47:00.000-04:00My faith is strong enough to have withstood some p...<I>My faith is strong enough to have withstood some pretty way out practices.</I><BR/><BR/>It probably wasn't when you were in grade school, though, and parents of all faiths are not comfortable with religious teachings that contradict, nullify or outright demonize their own.<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't want my child coming home from school crying because they were told they were going to hell for not believing in Jesus, or walking in my front door eating a burger.<BR/><BR/>Children are not adults. They're impressionable. We want to bring them up correctly, which for me would not include teaching them it was OK to eat dead animals or that they would go to hell for believing the same things I taught them at home.<BR/><BR/>And it has always been my impression that 'establishment of religion' refers to establishing a state (ie, national) religion that would be the norm and the expectation of the citizens. <BR/><BR/>According to dictionary.com: <BR/><BR/>es·tab·lish·ment <BR/>1. the act or an instance of establishing. <BR/>2. the state or fact of being established. <BR/>3. something established; a constituted order or system. <BR/>4. (often initial capital letter) the existing power structure in society; the dominant groups in society and their customs or institutions; institutional authority (usually prec. by the): The Establishment believes exploring outer space is worth any tax money spent. <BR/>5. (often initial capital letter) the dominant group in a field of endeavor, organization, etc. (usually prec. by the): the literary Establishment. <BR/>6. a household; place of residence including its furnishings, grounds, etc. <BR/>7. a place of business together with its employees, merchandise, equipment, etc. <BR/>8. a permanent civil, military, or other force or organization. <BR/>9. an institution, as a school, hospital, etc. <BR/><B>10. the recognition by a state of a church as the state church. <BR/>11. the church so recognized, esp. the Church of England.</B> <BR/>12. Archaic. a fixed or settled income.Satyavati devi dasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13980257934310271457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-83568625976350110402008-10-21T15:41:00.000-04:002008-10-21T15:41:00.000-04:00mainstreamavi aki bukaky: Y'oughta do a word study...mainstreamavi aki bukaky: Y'oughta do a word study of the Biblical meaning of humility. You'd be very surprised. (I think)<BR/><BR/>Jesus was humble and lowly of heart, but he called the pseudo-religious leaders of that day "snakes in the grass," and he overthrew the tables of the theives selling overpriced "offerings" on the temple porch.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-6750078467494920952008-10-21T15:35:00.000-04:002008-10-21T15:35:00.000-04:00It is my firm belief that Christians can pray any...It is my firm belief that Christians can pray anytime they want. <BR/><BR/>Don't you think a minute of silence is just being a little too show-off-ey?? (as if to say "look at me, I'm praying!!!")<BR/><BR/>What ever happended to the humility that Christ taught?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-45394334819865980422008-10-21T15:31:00.000-04:002008-10-21T15:31:00.000-04:00I think a moment of silence is completely and whol...I think a moment of silence is completely and wholly appropriate.<BR/><BR/>Putting one religion's prayers on a loudspeaker to the exclusion of others is not.<BR/><BR/>That's all I'm saying.<BR/><BR/>The only other compromise I can come up with would be to designate a different religion's prayers for each day and put those over the loudspeaker. This is so unwieldy as to be ridiculous.<BR/><BR/>I have heard many people say that a moment of silence is the 'leftist agenda to undermine Christianity in our country.'<BR/><BR/>No. That's also ridiculous. It's a recognition that our country is made up of a multitude, all of which practice a variety of faiths not necessarily Christian, and all deserve equal respect and rights.<BR/><BR/>Therefore, a moment of silence is the most appropriate way to deal with this issue.Satyavati devi dasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13980257934310271457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-83290303938822507162008-10-21T15:30:00.000-04:002008-10-21T15:30:00.000-04:00shoprat: You're right, they don't. Neither do som...shoprat: You're right, they don't. Neither do some Supreme Court justices, some Congressmen, Some Senators and, yes, even some regular citizens. (Never mind that many of them have never even heard of, let alone read, The Constitution).<BR/><BR/>Though its language is a bit archic, it is a phenominal document!<BR/><BR/>jennifer: A moment of silence would suit me, even if it would not suit Satyavati, but I would prefer that whoever is leading that day lead us in their thing.<BR/><BR/>My faith is strong enough to have withstood some pretty way out practices.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I'll take Jesus every day of the week and twice on Sundays. (Come to think of it, I DO take Him every day of the week and twice on Sundays...imagine that!)Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-9181150375911440152008-10-21T14:55:00.000-04:002008-10-21T14:55:00.000-04:00Satyavati devi dasi.....just curious....would you ...Satyavati devi dasi.....just curious....would you have a problem with a minute of silence to do with as you please?<BR/><BR/>Christians can pray, Atheists can twiddle their fingers, you can chant, etc.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-34269802916937378962008-10-21T14:53:00.000-04:002008-10-21T14:53:00.000-04:00You're right but the DemonicRats don't care what t...You're right but the DemonicRats don't care what the Constitution says.shoprathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05265612188236394307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7632224842501413538.post-9975780089012119272008-10-21T14:50:00.000-04:002008-10-21T14:50:00.000-04:00uh...that's the 19 fifties, BTW.uh...that's the 19 fifties, BTW.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693381971064363612noreply@blogger.com